Day of Remembrance

[bobbiemlv]

I'm a day late on this, but yesterday (11-18-11)was the Day of Remembrance. The day we honor Tg's that have died from hate crimes. It was very special to Susan and I because it was also the birthday of a Tg friend of ours who passed away 3yrs. ago. She would have been 50. You will always be in my heart, Kat.

[External Poster]

This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Correction to the date.

Sunday 11/20/2011 was this years 13th Annual Transgender Day of
Remembrance which was this past sunday ... but looking at the planned
events all over the world, the events were held either on that day or
days before or after the 20th.

I checked this website to be sure: http://www.transgenderdor.org/

That web page shows the events world-wide for that day, including the
US.

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[External Poster]

This posting is from: bobbiemlv
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You're talking about the International Day of Remembrance which was on
the 20th, but celebrated in most of the US on the 18th. Semantics,
semantics, semantics.

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[External Poster]

This posting is from: jamiegirl
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I have to add my 2 cents worth. The Day of Remembrance is Nov 20th. It
is kind of like Christmas and the 4th of July. Celebrate it when you
want, but the day is the same!!!

Jamie R

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[External Poster]

This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Bob,

Stating the correct date is important - and we should not mis-lead
anyone with the wrong OFFICAL date.

No, you are not correct. Its not semantics. Its not on the 18th. For
those not interested - stop here. Jamie's entry says it very nicely and
very short and to the point. The rest of this shows other independent
web sites to explain that its on the 20th.
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You stated it was on the 18th, quoting your email: "but yesterday
(11-18-11) was the Day of Remembrance".

Also, the added word 'International" from the title of the web site does
NOT always mean its different - its the same in this situation.

Look at the page again - Go to the web page:
http://www.transgenderdor.org/

Yes, The Top Title states "International" Look BELOW it, in the framed
window with a burning candle as the background, it states:"13th Annual
Transgender Day of Remembrance" and "November 20, 2011". There is a
quote and the URL of the offical web site.

In that Frame - there is NO "International" nor does it have the 18th.

This frame also appears on many other sites that talk about TDoR

Go to Wikipedia's page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_Day_of_Remembrance

Quoting from the second paragraph:

"The Transgender Day of Remembrance was founded in 1998 by Gwendolyn Ann
Smith, a transgender graphic designer, columnist, and activist[3], to
memorialize the murder of Rita Hester in Allston, Massachusetts[4].Since
its inception, TDoR has been held annually on November 20th[5], and has
slowly evolved from the web-based project started by Smith into an
international day of action."

What date is printed? The 20th

Go to: another web-site:
http://www.shewired.com/news/2011/11/19/transgender-day-remembrance-sunday-no
vember-20-2011

Quoting again from the first line:

"Sunday, November 20th marks the 13th annual Transgender Day of
Remembrance."

shewired.com is website of Here Media - a american address:

Here Media Inc.
10990 Wilshire
Blvd, Penthouse
Los Angeles, CA 90024

Based in LA - its a American/US company.

Why don't they say the 18th if that was the offical date or observed
date on the 18th? Because its NOT the 18th in the US - its on the 20th.
Again, where does it have "International"? It doesn't.

It has BECOME a internationally OBSERVED day, but as Jamie said - its
still the same thing - and that day is 11/20. Its not two separate and
different events.

I also stated that the first web site (transgenderdor.org) stated events
all over the world that were either on the 20th or days before or after.

The OFFICAL day is STILL the 20th. When its observed - its up to the
individual or the event organizer.... like other holidays in the US, as
Jamie stated.

For example Studio 54 had its official Halloween party on the 29th this
year. It wasn't on the OFFICAL day of the 31st. It doesn't make
Halloween to be on the 29th.

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[bobbiemlv]

As far as I'm concerned, by making this into the usual argument that you seem to love to do, all YOU are really doing is desecrating their memory by making an argument out of it. What does the date make a difference? The main thing is that we honor these people that have given the ultimate sacrifice to be who they want to be. Dates mean nothing next to that. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!

[bobbiemlv]

External Poster wrote :
> This posting is from: jamiegirl
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>
> I have to add my 2 cents worth. The Day of Remembrance is Nov 20th. It
> is kind of like Christmas and the 4th of July. Celebrate it when you
> want, but the day is the same!!!
>
I just posted the answer to this as "Let's try this again 'politically correct" dates. Read it and weep.
There are exceptions.

[Susan Rogers]

On Friday 11-18 Bob and I attended a wonderful and very moving ceremony commemorating the Day of Remembrance at the student union at UNLV. I assure you that of all the people who spoke that night, [politicians, ministers, transgender activists and other wonderful people] not one mentioned that the official day is the 20th.

People came to the stage and mentioned every victim. A bartender at a local gay bar, the Garage, was mentioned. An ex lover came in and shot him to death while he worked just a few days before.

What the bleep is wrong with you bleeping bleepers. Arguing about the official day. You disrespect all those people who were victims of violent hate crimes. Get a life you idiots.