Lavender and Tea Tree Oil combination

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Since its slow a bit on disc...

Has anyone heard of - or even tried - the combination of tea tree oil
and lavender oil as a topical to create what is called male breasts?

I've read reports - even from the American Cancer Society that for pre
puberty boys - this combination of essential oils mimics estrogen and
blocks androgen to cause breast development...or something to that
effect, specifically in the aureola area around the nipples.

The studies that I read said that when the oils were removed or stopped
- the breasts returned to normal for those boys affected. The reports
that I read didn't confirm only one or both breasts would develop.

The reports didn't show any possible damaging side effects of using the
oil combination besides the male breast issues.

Are there any damaging effects doing this?

Again - this is a topical application and nothing to be swallowed or
taken internally. I'm curious if anyone knows (or tried this) if it
does work or would work for adults - males pastpuberty - or any other
healthissues with this type of treatment.

When I did a web search - many places sells this combination of oils.
Or one can pick up the oils separately and make one's own combination.

-- Kumi

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This posting is from: Farro Song
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Farrosong here. The product you have described sounds interesting, but I
haven't heard of it. I have heard that soy products has feminizing
effects. Keep us posted on your reasearch. If the tree oil works, I
would love to try it.

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> Has anyone heard of - or even tried - the combination of tea tree oil
> and lavender oil as a topical to create what is called male breasts?

There are many naturally-occurring substances which have pseudoestrogenic effects to one degree or another. It's certain that if any of these were truly effective in growing boobs on those who have none, they would be well-known and very popular.

Black Cohosh (used for centuries in obstetrics and midwifery) was quite the rage in the TG community for a while in the 1990s. Chasteberry has been used as well with similar non-results. There are others.

> Are there any damaging effects doing this?

I would suggest that premature atrophy of the contents of the pocketbook would be the most obvious effect of such treatment.

> Again - this is a topical application and nothing to be swallowed or
> taken internally. I'm curious if anyone knows (or tried this) if it
> does work or would work for adults - males pastpuberty - or any other
> healthissues with this type of treatment.

Search the web and you'll find scads of come-ons for various topical breast development products. Of course none of these have been verified as actually working. There's a reason for that - they don't!

If there were a simple, safe, over-the-counter, and truly effective method of breast development, it would be very well known and used widely.

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Thanks Annie,

I agree with you - seeing different products over the years that have
had claims. There are also soy extract products taken internally that
are specifically concentrated phytoestrogen supplements for aging women
that is now being frowned upon by the medical side due to potential
health problems to women. So one doesn't have to eat a ton of soy
products to get the same results. There is no documented proof that it
changes adult males to develop radically effective female features like
full breasts and hips.

I agree that cost can be a big issue - but the oils that can be diluted
or found in other products can be relatively less expensive - not sure
of the long term costs too.

I got kinda curious about this one - for its something the
AmericanCancer Society (ACS) actually did a response - or looked into
this - that I haven't seen forany of the other products. I can see why
they had to write a response if as large number of boys using that oil
combination was developing breasts - and the possible cancer risks - if
any - from it. Also there are many lotions and soaps thathave tea tree
and lavender oils as ingredients, or have one in one product and the
other in another - but used together - ie lavender soap and a
moisturizer or lotion with tea tree oil. All relatively inexpensive and
competitively priced in the market.

Tea tree oil is a natural anti-fungal and anti-bacterial oil and is used
in skin care products. Lavender oil is used for aroma therapy and
finding its way into soaps and lotions too.

Tea Tree oil has only become bettern known and used in the last 10 yrs
or so. The source is mainly from Australia.

I can see pre-puberty affecting boys - for the testosterone levels
during puberty can be very strong. But consider in older men after
their prime, and the studies coming out about lower levels of
testosterone as men go into their 40s. Many infomercials about
testosterone supplements are being shown every day too...all stating
that males have declining levels as they get older.

Scientific studies support this findings too - less sex drive - and less
testosterone in males and allowing the natural estrogen in males to
start affecting their bodies - ie some males take on female features
like male breasts as they get older anyway as part of aging.

Male breasts are also a problem for weight lifters too but from
different supplements they are taking.

So this is something relatively new. I've been reading on it, but how
the breast is affected - other than growth larger than what is supposed
to be in males is all that is stated. One pic stated growth on the
sides of the breast that had to be removed. The ACS report stated the
aureola and nipple area. None reported development of a full breast as
to a level of milk development.

I don't think that it would ever be to a level to create a full female
(large) breast. I think if anything - something much smaller and can be
enhanced by other already known methods (ie implants), or very small
breasts that padding may not be needed, for those cders that prefer
having small breasts - say size A to B - just enough to show something
there - and not your DD size - (large breasts described as melons).

I'm just curious if anyone on the DISC group has tried this or noticed
anything when using this combination. Us older people - not anyone
pre-puberty - or are there any in this disc group?

- Kumi

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[annie]

I just thought of this, and it may be of interest to those who have considered less-effective preparations or makeshifts. This was brought up during Pinkfest and offers an alternative to not-so-effective home remedy HRT ("candy hormones"), underground hormones, or worse, things like "pumping parties" and the like.

A few programs of "Informed Consent" HRT now exist. Here's a link to the one which was being discussed at Pinkfest this year:

http://www.howardbrown.org/uploadedFile ... 20FAQs.pdf

The premise is that you, the subject, are an adult and should be able to make intelligent and informed decisions about your treatment without the formality usually required to begin HRT. This replaces such things as months/years of counseling, those highly-coveted "letters", and the like.

Just passing it on ...