portrait Photo gallery with names attached.

[Katie Wilson]

Hi.
How about a separate gallery with photos of individuals and Name tags in the final photo lineup? I am sure that I am not the only one who made a lot of nice new friends and forgot some names already so a reminder for those like me who forget every now and then would help for when we meet those girls again next year. It is much better to be able to say "Hi Mary" when that is actually her name don't you think?
We used name tags at D L V week and I saw maybe 3 of them. I sense this isn't the popular way to go so a gallery of **Single pics taken from D L V 2011 only** would be nice I think.

I would like to know what you all think of this idea.

Katie Wilson

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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A web page set up like a yearbook that has individual
head shot photos with the femme name under it and
maybe some other info like years attending DLV.

Hmm - if needed, a attendee could get made up
or have a make-over, and then take a the head
(or yearbook style) photo on their own, so the
photo is already approved by that person, and
send the approved pic to Annie to be posted on
something like a yearbook formatted page. The photo
would have to be cropped so that everyone's face
would be the same proportion to the other photos.

The section can be titled 'Yearbook'

Good idea!

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Hi all.

Well kumiko I didn't expect sarcasm for my efforts to improve our social
network! Which from your previous responses seems to be your forte. I
don't deserve that! I was trying to make DLV a better experience by
adding a name to a photo. I thought that you would already know from
being around as long as I have that we have had single photo galleries
for years. IE:-- 03, 04, 05 06 etc.(Take a look if you don't believe me)
Only this time add a name to it.

A need for some back pedaling yet again Kumiko?

Katie.

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LOVE IT!!! ;^)

Daenna

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Hi Katie,

You are getting my message totally wrong. NO I don't need to
take any back- pedaling as you state. Its you who has taken
it as a sarcastic statement. That is your opinion.

Actually, if you take your opinion out of it, you will see that what
I wrote, I actually and seriously like this idea. It was never intended
to make a sarcastic comment to your idea.

To have a good photo, with a name to it, and also some
background I think would be invaluable as a resource to get to know
the attendees and a way to match faces with names of those that
attend DLV.

Why I say photo head shot taken by yourself, like a yearbook photo,
means to have a good pic taken of a attendee in the photo.
Each of us - if they wanted to - would take the time to have a photo
taken at their best, having the right light, angle, makeup, wig etc.

The resulting photo, if its a good photo or one that the person in it
likes, that person would allow or approve or want to post that pic. It
would be the best representation visually of who they are, better than
any candid shot (unless they want to use that) - which may or may not
be a good photo of that person.

I've seen the photo gallery many times, but there are no names to the
faces. There many photos of multiple people also.You can still have
those.

BUT, what I LIKED about your idea, is matching with the photo the
femme name of that person that they used during DLV to match with
the face.

As you said, the name tags during DLV is one thing, but having such
a 'Yearbook' it can help remember better the name that goes with
that photo, and not get the name confused with anyone else.

For instance I know a Tina Tawdre, but for a newbie, would they know?
How about Debbie Sage or Julie Anne or another LeAnna that no longer
attends DLV?

That is what I was talking about, and nothing at all to do with commenting
on your idea as being sarcastic.

Maybe then too you shouldn't ask:

"I would like to know what you all think of this idea"

If you cannot be open to what others have to say.

- Kumiko

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[annie]

Ok, here's what we can do ...

But first, a note from Mother Hen: Can we please get along? Enough said! End of that digression, please!

We used to have a People Gallery. It's still around, but hasn't been updated in years. If anyone's curious, what remains of it is on line here, deprecated and unsupported:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/gallery/

So? Why was this dropped? Mainly due to the fact that it required quite a bit of effort to maintain and update for the number of hits it received. (You will notice that my own years of attendance are incorrect for the last update date on the page.)

We now have a number of resources available which allow for user-maintained galleries and such. We also have the means to automatically track years of attendance and such. (MyDLV members who attended DLV 2011 should now show DLV 2011 in their profile under activity.)

However, we don't have any common "rogues gallery" or yearbook type of page anymore.

Yes, we could implement such a thing, and with the resources we have today it would be far more self-maintaining than the old manually-maintained page.

I'm willing to do the busy-work to make it happen under one condition:

MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION!

If I have the assurance that there's enough demand for this that people will use it and post their photos in it, I'll make it happen.

What I'm envisioning, and what would be practical to implement, would be for those who want to participate to designate one of their gallery photos as their "yearbook" photo. These would all be aggregated and thumbnailed in a single "yearbook" page, with years attended and such, with appropriate drill down to the full-size image, the full gallery, and the individual's profile.

If this is what's wanted, then we can go ahead and plan for it.

In the meantime, I have a feeling that many of you don't know what's on line already.

As Ginger has recently noted, all MyDLV users have the ability to upload a personal profile photo or "avatar", plus any reasonable number of photos into their own personal gallery. Other users can "surf" profiles and galleries from this link:

memberlist.php

Users who have galleries will be noted on that page. Anyone's profile can be examined by clicking on that user's profile link.

Would a "yearbook" type of page be what you want?

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To take this idea one step further. The photo for this 'yearbook' can
be also used as a ID pic for MyDLV accounts?

Annie, if this idea is already in play for MyDLV, or too much work to
set up the webpage html or some form of C programing, my apologies.

I still think a web page with individual head shots - big enough to see
the faces nicely - but not too close to see things you don't want to see
(ie beard shadow - nose hairs - etc) and all even so the size of the
head is about the same with all the pics, just big enough to see their
face nicely. The pics will have to have a minimum of pixel size so that
tweeking the photo bigger or smaller won't affect the overall image to
greatly/.

I know that some of us who don't want to have their pic or name posted,
so it would still be a voluntary thing to do. Or do like some some
yearbooks that have a sign - "photo not available."

On some of the photos in the pic gallery are very nice photos, but for
others, usually in group shots, some faces can be very small or even
hard to see - because of lighting or other factors, its hard to tell
who they are, even if clicking on them, or expanded the pixel size
makes the pic bigger. At times its makes the pic blurred.

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[annie]

> To take this idea one step further. The photo for this 'yearbook' can
> be also used as a ID pic for MyDLV accounts?

I would say that yes it could be used as the "Avatar" photo for MyDLV, but I know that some will not want a yearbook photo and avatar to be one and the same. For example, my own avatar is an ASCII caricature and I would want the yearbook photo to be one of me in real life. I think a user-designated photo is the way to go.

> Annie, if this idea is already in play for MyDLV, or too much work to
> set up the webpage html or some form of C programing, my apologies.

It was not in play until this morning. Yes, it will take some programming, but if it will be used, I'm willing to do it. Very few web apps are written in c anymore. The bulk of the front end of MyDLV is written in PHP, a somewhat c-like interpreted scripting language with some otherwise very vanilla .html templates. The back end relies heavily on a Postgres database with a fair amount of shell script cgi. I'm sure I'm boring most of the folks with this.

> I still think a web page with individual head shots - big enough to see
> the faces nicely - but not too close to see things you don't want to see
> (ie beard shadow - nose hairs - etc) and all even so the size of the
> head is about the same with all the pics, just big enough to see their
> face nicely. The pics will have to have a minimum of pixel size so that
> tweeking the photo bigger or smaller won't affect the overall image to
> greatly/.

I want to adhere to Ginger's principle of keeping things simple. Leverage what we already have and let the user decide what type of photo and what final size to use. Of course the yearbook page will have thumbnails, standardized in size. As we do in the gallery, we'll resize anything really large to sane dimensions. (The Netpbm toolkit us used for image manipulation here.)

> I know that some of us who don't want to have their pic or name posted,
> so it would still be a voluntary thing to do. Or do like some some
> yearbooks that have a sign - "photo not available."

I envision this as opt in only. No opt in (meaning no yearbook photo selected), no photo, no mention.

> On some of the photos in the pic gallery are very nice photos, but for
> others, usually in group shots, some faces can be very small or even
> hard to see - because of lighting or other factors, its hard to tell
> who they are, even if clicking on them, or expanded the pixel size
> makes the pic bigger. At times its makes the pic blurred.

When we get our 2011 pages on line, we'll have close to 14,000 photos in our galleries. All of these are available to our users to post in their personal galleries if they wish.

These photos are taken using a wide range of cameras, from cell phone cams to "prosumer" grade equipment. The quality of the photos varies from sub-snapshot quality to presentation quality. Most of the photos are casual snapshots showing one or more of our attendees.

It's really going to have to be up to the individual to choose their yearbook photo and get it formatted the way they like best.

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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> http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/gallery/

Hi Annie,

Before writing anything, I was looking for that page, but couldn't find
a easy link from the geekbabe.com/dlv main page. I guess I didn't look
hard enough. I remembered seeing one. But since I couldn't find it I
thought it was good that it was being re-visited.

> Would a "yearbook" type of page be what you want?

I cannot speak for anyone else as far as how much participation. I
think this part is up for discussion. Need to hear from others. Its
still just a idea.

If its more self-maintaining, that is even better!. I don't want
something that will take alot of time on your or anyone else's part.

If the MyDLV uploaded pic can be connected to a yearbook page that
would be very nice, then a attendee can change it at anytime. The
name can also be specified for that thumbnail spot with other info all
connected from the MyDLV database.

I am working on a MyDLV pic, I haven't liked any photos that has been
made so far, and still working on it. But I would post it once I make
one.

- Kumiko

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[Katie Wilson]

I knew I had it totally wrong. Phew! what a relief!

Now that's out of the way we can get down to discussing the pros and cons of a *people Page* without dispute.
My thoughts were to use "only photos taken at D L V 2011" but if the majority wants home made pics, they at least will give us an idea of who we should and should not remember.
It's not a bad idea to use our own personal pics either but recognizing a face from a specific venue or an outfit from the trip seems a bit more appropriate with the DLV protocol don't you think? ( as in everybody ) Either way we will have a nice new album to trace the history of a really neat event.
Make pics not war!
Huggers. Katie.