Ski trip

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SO how many participants do you have and if I can go can I come as
Susan, will any of the other sisters be arriving as their other selves.
Is there a specific lodge where you have informed the management the we
Cd/TS girls are coming to play.

Just curious as I am considering a snow trip.

Hugs and thanks for coordinating this trip,

SUSAN

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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Hi susan, It looks like we have seven interested players thus far:
You and me, Denise, Kumiko, Jamie, Vanessa, and Beverly, and with
Kumiko's permission here I'm going to make some assumptions - out of
sheer ignorance of course. If you've skiied before and know how to en
femme, you're probably going to do just that, and I doubt if management
would give a hang, but someone should call them in advance and tell them
that a few CDTG's want to come up for some skiing, just to be sure,
good point. I for one, having never skiied before will be appearing in
boi mode, as my cousin Boner. Boner's never skiied before so he's going
to be falling all over the place, but he is pretty good at drinking
beer. He'll be skiing the bunny trails on a snowboard no doubt. Being
that this is Kumiko's idea and that she has tons of expertise, I concede
all decisions to her; if I got to take a class, I will; but I would
just as soon declare experienced novice status and do the novice trails.
I further assume we may have to sign some sort of waiver or something,
but Kumiko would know for sure. That's all I know; we're all anted up
and holding a card. Kumiko, your deal, honey.

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> Annie, how 'bout it??

Well, uh ...

I haven't snow-skied in decades, and I really wasn't that good at it anyway.

How about this ... depending on circumstances, like when it is and such, I may be able to be talked into going along for the ride and being the first to apres-ski!

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>I had cousin Boner call the resort and ask them if we could apres-ski,
>he said no, they won't allow you to ski naked.

Thank goodness ...sanity rains.

Susan

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Add Rosada, #8. Annie, how 'bout it??

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Thank you Cynthia. I wish I was as you say, a good
skier and snow boarder, but I'm only one that goes
on the intermediate trails. Far from being a expert on
this sport. I just know enough to enjoy the ride and scenery
while skiing or snow boarding. I still cannot negotiate
black diamond slopes and most of them have piles
of snow mounds in the way called moguls.

Skiing is still a idea that is possible and good to discuss, and
definite interest, except for the price of rent and access.

There is nothing wrong with skiing in boi mode either.

I actually started at Lee Canyon, and wore a GI
issue army bdu woodlawn pattern jacket with
thermal nylon liner, and sweat pants under heavy
duty jeans. No nice ski jacket or outfit. My goggles
and wool knit cap were also GI surplus, and I bought
ski gloves for the first time at the lodge store, the
GI issue mittens didn't keep the hands dry. Yup,
all surplus stuff... couldn't afford the ski outfits and
didn't know at the time I would continue to ski. I
did, and got a ski outfit.

hmmm, apres-skiing, with a bota bag full of galliano
liqueur - one shot after each run down the slope.
and not during the lesson.

Does galliano freeze? -

I learned from Denise just now that schnapps don't freeze!
No wonder my friends carried that in the metal flask.
Some schnapps tastes as bad as galliano, and others do
taste good. I didn't care for the peach flavored one, but
the apple one was good. It definitely tasted better cold
than warm.

Don't let galliano spill on the snow, yellow stains on snow have meant
something else :-) It might go along with apres-skiing.

Maybe apres-skiing after the galliano is gone? probably wont
feel anything when falling down either.

I was looking at the map. There are 6 blue runs, 4 black
runs, and the only green run is at the base. Chair lift 3
looks like surface lift rather than like the lifts to go to the
intermediate levels. I can see why too, it avoids learning
how to mount and get off the 2-4 seater lifts. I'm sure
the beginners stay at the base level, but then again, not
very much for the beginner. So its a very small ski area,
compared to places well known as Vail, Brekenridge,
Copper Mountain and Park City.

The web site shows plans for expansion and
more slopes for the future but not for us this year.

So if anything it can be to get there in the morning,
ski, lunch and back by evening.

As far as announcing who we are, I think all we need
to tell is the lesson instructor.

Be aware also, there doesn't appear to be any
restrooms on the slope. So if dressed femme
or otherwise, it will only be in the lodge at the
bottom or base of the runs.

hmm. I can see a wig under a helmet, but they do have
cute hats for women too... the challenge is to
ski with a hat, without having the wig fly off and
not wear a helmet. Hats are usually secured to the head by
securing it to the hair, but what if wearing a wig?

If I remember right Sonny Bono skied into a forest
or wooded area and hit a tree and died from the injuries,
and wasn't wearing a helmet which would have saved
him. I think another was a Kennedy relative too.

No worries, the green run is at the base... no trees
except at the edge of the boundaries of the green slope,
so no real chance of hitting any trees as a beginner, unless
one doesn't stop and goes beyond the boundary, that
probaby has some sort of fence or high drifts of snow to
stop any beginner.

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I had cousin Boner call the resort and ask them if we could apres-ski,
he said no, they won't allow you to ski naked.

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Hi Kumiko, That all sounds good to me, I'm sure we'll know more as
the time approaches and it looks like you're right up to the minute on
it. If I can do anything for you from here, don't hesitate to ask, I'm
just sort of sitting around semi-retired anyway. Question?:
Will they be open in April?? I plan to be on the bunny trail and
hopefully get around that class. I can't wait to hit one of those
moguls and see how far I can fly on a snowboard. We got an army
surplus here so I'll go see what they got. I'm not a Galliano person
but I just love to sip on apple shnapps or the Dekuyper apple liquor
while having a big glass of that good old Sam Adams Boston lager, it's
a perfect back for beer and makes it go down sooo smooth. It must look
green on the snow and might make people wonder though; Somebody's bound
to say "hey, that ain't no snowcone." Cynthia

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Hi Cynthia,

I like your enthusiasm for snow boarding!

The closing date is the sticky point. DLV is very close to the
tentative closing date which is right now Sunday, April 10, 2011, which
is the weekend that DLV ends. So its possible to go during DLV...but
that is not a sure thing. It can stay open longer or close earlier. If
they stay open longer then no problem. Its when they can close earlier
that we will have problems.

That date is based on historical temp, available snow, and ability to
make snow. If the temp rises overall and stays in the upper 30s or
higher earlier than expected or the snow melts earlier for any reason,
they will close before the 10th because the snow can melt where it
cannot sustain any form of skiing or boarding. If it stays cold and
below the mid 30s, then they can make snow with the freezing temps and
stay open longer.

Being in a desert, the fun is going skiing or snow boarding then coming
back to LV, get into a swim suit and dive into the hotel/casino
outdoor pool, or even go golfing in green grass courses in polo shirts
and shorts. But the same desert heat can melt the snow too with a
sustained warm wind coming up from the desert.

Moguls are nasty and too much of a physical workout to navigate through
them to be fun for me. I prefer the smooth graded slopes that are
flat.

One can then carve into the snow, and watch the snow spray up. Actually
that action creates the moguls. :-) No green runs have moguls, only
steeper intermediate and black advanced and steep slopes.

For snow boarding, they have special runs or slopes for snow boarders,
with half pipes, rails, and graded jump slopes just to get air time
with the board. Its easy to get into the air, its the gravity and
coming back down on two feet that is the problem.

I like the taste apple schnapps too. There is one good thing about
drinking outside of the lodge. The bottle or glass will always stay ice
cold if not begin to freeze. It makes for a better tasting drink. One
lodge I went to was so crowded my friends and I had to eat outside.
Basically the beer got colder, and the burger got cold and began to
freeze in less than 10 minutes, and made for quick eating or crunchy
veggies with the burger. The hot cocoa became a cold chocolate drink
or pop sickle.

The following is ONLY for discussion. Don't buy this stuff yet for
skiing.. until this becomes offical, or you plan to ski at other times
other than DLV.

GI surplus gear can be used for skiing. I've done it, and was probably
close to or new issue condition when I bought it.

I wouldn't recommend a kevlar helmet nor those steel pot with fiberglass
liner helmets. To heavy and ineffective in falls.

The best was the goggles and jacket. The goggles came with a removable
gray polarized film. It was as good as any ski goggle. The commercial
ski goggle has yellow lenses and some with a mirror reflective coated
lenses. Both styles made objects appear sharper but not necessarily
brighter.

The jacket, if treated with 3M scotch guard waterproofing and layering
with thermals with the nylon liner insert, was as good as any ski
jacket, and when I bought it, was a lot cheaper than a ski outfit...for
a guy that is... not necessarily for a gal or cder. It has enough room
to move around in it, esp for skiing and boarding. The bad is that if
one is lost, the woodlawn pattern will blend with the nearby forest and
no one will see you. I used this pattern, and wasn't worried about
getting lost if I stuck to the known slopes and had a map too.

If available, the attachable hood with synthetic fur edge liner is good
for keeping the head warm. It has a bendable metal wire to shape the
hood opening and drawstring and buttons to connect it to the jacket and
to prevent the hood from blowing back if caught in a wind. This is NOT
repeat NOT good for skiing or boarding, for it funnels your situational
awareness. Its just to keep the head warm when walking around. It also
hides the head and face quite well.

A navy synthetic wool cap in navy blue was what I used while skiing, and
kept my head hair nice and warm even though it was soaking wet for the
snow would fall on it and immediately melt.

Most ski outfits may be treated for waterproofing. I used 3M scotch
guard anyway and a way to be sure of the waterproofing. If ice melts
and allowed to soak the material, if it were to get cold again and
freeze, it makes the material that was wet as hard as rock, and may rip
or tear it. After skiing before I started using the 3M stuff, my pants
from the knees down were as hard and stiff for they got wet, and soaked,
then refroze stiff. Using the 3M stuff on the pants or shell, I never
had that happen again. I also used it on the outside of the ski jacket
too.

For water, I actually had either water bottles in my jacket and at one
time considered taking a GI web belt, get two canteen holders and
canteens and use those while skiing.

It was easier to invest in a Camelbak bladder system. The bladder would
be on the back like a backpack, with a feed tube to the mouth. It is
pricey. I got the one one with a big bladder lid for the bladder for
ease in cleaning and maintenance.

Because of the physical exercise involved and possible sweating its a
good idea to carry water to stay hydrated by drinking water. Then again
schnapps would work too.

The water bladder systems I see are commercial variants. I now know
the military are also moving away from canteens and now are using this
system in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bladder stays more quiet too, with
less sloshing noise.

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