Happy New Year and skiing DLV

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This posting is from: Kumiko Watanabe
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I hope everyone had a nice Christmas, and wishing everyone a better
and good New Year and great DLV.

I was wondering, since DLV is early, would Lee Canyon be still open
during DLV? As in the possibility of skiing? It's really close to the
end of season and may not have snow either but some ski places close in
May but those are in Colorado or Utah.

It may be warm enough as not needing too much layering but I've never
gone skiing enfemme either and thought it might be a opportunity to do
this, not as a beginner but more intermediate blue runs and easier green
runs and knowing the basics in skiing and renting skis and boots. I'm
not sure if Lee Canyon would teach beginners at the end of season and
it would be classes and big time Mainstream interaction. The fake boobs
and padding can be beneficial to keeping warm and any ski outfit will
hide most physical femme features. More so if wearing head gear as in
a helmet and goggles. But for those that can afford to buy femme ski
outfits it would be a chace to wear it and ski enfemme.

An idea anyway.

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This posting is from: Beverly Wayne
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I went up to Mt. Charleston last year during DLV and was surprised to
see there was snow there and people were snowboarding. So I would think
that the chances are pretty good that there would be snow on the
mountain tops in early April.

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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I'm in on this if you can set it up; I've never been skiing and would
love to try it, as a beginner, would be just sweet. I've got a ski
jacket I bought at a thrift but never had the chance to wear it, it is
the most comfortable thing ever. I don't even fool with fake boobs,
just get in the way. sissy Cynthia

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Hi,

Did some web surfing, and for beginners, some things to know...

From a website the prices are at: http://www.skilasvegas.com/

Lee Canyon/Mt
Charleston - is called:
Las Vegas Ski and Snowboard Resort.

Target tentative
closing date: April 10th

So currently, the closing will be after the week of DLV, and this
depends on amt of snow still on the slopes. So the resort can close
anytime before or after DLV. That April 10th is not a solid date.
Nothing on web site about classes the last week the resort will be open
at this time. Some ski resorts close their lessons at least a week
before the resort shuts down.

Mountain specs:
11 ski trails
20% beginner - green
60% intermediate - blue
20% advanced - black (diamond)

So it appears this mountain is geared for the intermediate skier, or a
fast learning beginner that can go up to the next intermediate level.
There are probably for the beginner, challenging green trails, and
easier intermediate trails, so I think there are enough trails for the
whole day. A advanced skier will have the whole mountain to ski, but it
may not have challenging trails.

Lessons: $80/$95 1 Day: Includes: All Day Beginner Lift Ticket,
Equipment Rental, 2 hour First Time On The Snow Group Lesson, Lift
ticket is restricted to the beginner chair 3.

Note that this lift ticket is restricted, and not a general access to
all lifts. IF the day of the lesson has no other people but only our
DLV group, it can be like a private group lesson - a possibility.

If after the lesson, with the instructor evaluating that the person can
ski on beginning slopes, it may be possible to upgrade to a general
lift ticket (could be paying for the upgrade), but I couldn't find
anything about this on the web site. Some ski lesson places will give
you access to green slopes if you pass free of charge. Again I couldn't
find anything that says this at Lee Canyon.

Part of the lesson is getting on and off lifts.

Yes, there are those that take beginner lessons, that don't pass. They
stay on the 'bunny' learning trail or trails and are not allowed to take
lifts to even the green trails. Its a safety and liability reason.
These are told to take another lesson to spend more time getting used to
and controlling the skis, or take private lessons to correct the
problem areas. Lessons for beginners will take several hrs including
getting the rentals as in sizing for boots and skis and paperwork, so
consider it taking half a day for lessons. There is alot of mainstream
voice interaction, as in sizing and putting feet in ski boots and
standing on skis. Its important for your physical safety to get fitted
properly. The boots are very restrictive at the ankles, its hard for
those that have a sizable midsection to secure the clamps on these
boots, even in male mode. Having someone else help is alot easier. I
recommend wearing 2 pairs of (two socks on each foot) athletic socks to
prevent blisters, and some added warmth and comfort in very thin
plastic and foam molded, tight fitting shoes, which is important for
the feel of the skis and prevent your feet from wiggling out of the
boots when falling or on a lift where the skis are dangling in the air.
Remember these are rentals and have had many a foot in them.

I would worry about squishing or crushing fake boobs when securing the
clamps on the boots, if doing this alone. Walking in the ski boots is
like walking as Frankenstein. Its not a very femme walk even for ggs.
It gets worse in deep snow, walking on ice, going up and down stairs,
and maneuvering in and out of the toilet, esp if you go femme.

The ski boots prevent ankle movement to prevent breaking it when one
falls while skiing. The ski mounts connected to the boots are set at a
level based on weight and height, so the connection will be broken, and
the boots and skis will separate when a certain amt of pressure is
placed on your feet during a fall before it reaches a level that can
break your leg. It doesn't guarantee no broken bones, but it helps
reduce the possibility. It doesn't mean you won't break your arm, or in
alot of cases breaking the collar bone. The beginning lesson should
teach you how to correctly fall on skis. There should be adequate
lockers to store personal stuff like handbags. They may be located in
general public areas, or segregated as part of the restrooms in the
lodge or near the rental location. One can bring a change of foot gear
or clothing, but that requires a change in the public restroom. All of
the lockers require a pre-payment system to use and secure your
valuables. Its secure, but still, don't bring too much money or
valuables.

You cannot bring you purse or handbag while skiing, that goes in the
locker. You can wear a butt pack, or one that can hold a water bottle,
as long as it doesn't interfere with movements required to ski.

During the lessons there is more vocal interaction, so the whole event
will be challenging.

Check the website on what to wear too. It has a nice web page on what
you need to wear. Sears and Penny's have very femme thermal under
garment tops and bottoms that can be worn as layers to keep you warm.
Sometimes I just wear a tee shirt or shell and sweats under my pants
which is good enough.

For beginners, goggles, and ski gloves are not included in rentals, are
required for skiing safely to protect the eyes and keep the hands warm
from freezing up, and will have to be purchased on your own at sporting
goods stores or at a higher price at the ski rental place.

If you are to do this more frequently, a helmet is highly recommended to
protect your head from injury when falling and keeping your head warm.
The snow is not soft. You can hurt your head. For some, they crash
into rocks and trees. This will prevent serious head injury when
hitting a immovable object. This is another item you need to purchase.
Again its not required.

If you are not going to be skiing that much, instead of a helmet, the
stores also sell yarn woven caps, and flannel hats that can be worn also
while skiing. The idea is to keep your head and possibly your neck
warm, and keep any snow from getting into your hair, melting and getting
your head wet, which can help in catching a cold. These don't prevent
injury in a fall hitting your head.

If its really cold, and there is a wind chill that drops the temp even
more, there are other neoprene accessories that covers the nose, mouth,
and the neck to stay warm. The ski jacket will somewhat keep the neck
warm, but its not as good nor designed that way. These other
accessories that cover the neck, and for the mouth and nose has holes
to allow you to breath without restriction. Worn with the hat/helmet
and goggles the overall effect will completely cover your face and neck.
Your jacket and top will overlap and you will be completely covered
to stay warm. Male clothing and accessories can be boring. Femme hats
and clothing are in brighter colors and patterns and different cuts and
fits compared to male items. But skiing femme, one can use male
jackets and clothing and no one will notice you. You will look like
another skier, gender not visible. I've skied in male mode and
clothing, using a annual pass for a female. Because I was covered up,
the checker staff couldn't see if I was male or female. A valid pass is
a valid pass, and shouldn't matter on what gender is using it. If
lessons are taken in the morning, and passing to ski on the beginning
slopes, the afternoon can be used for skiing the other green trails or
trying the easier intermediate trails if one's ability to ski is up to
that challenge.

Private lessons start at $90. Not sure if equipment rentals or lift
ticket are included in private lessons.

For those that already know how to ski: Daily lift ticket for adults:
$50 Rentals: Skis, boots, poles: $35 It doesn state daily rate or one
cost to rent for multiple days, but we are only going for one day
anyway.

Required deposit of rental purchases: $150 (in case if not returned) I'm
not sure if this includes rentals for beginning lessons, but I would
assume it is.

So if we were to go, just one day, cost is $85/95 plus tax for rental
and lift ticket, with a $150 deposit.

Its cheaper if you bring your own equipment, if traveling will be
another item in luggage, and very bulky.

We are now at around $100 for one day with or without lessons. This
doesn't include transportation to and from.

Transportation: Its available, no prices shown:
http://www.skilasvegas.com/winter/mountain_info/Ski_Bus

We can drive up in our own cars as another option, or look for tour
packages that is all inclusive which may be cheaper, but probably be
more expensive from private venues. If driving and you bring your own
equipment, it means having ski racks or if it fits inside a SUV or van
it can be slid under the seats.

The Resort at Mt. Charleston Located 20 minutes from the ski area.
Mountain hotel, restaurant, coffee house and bar. Phone
702 872-5500. Offeriing Skication packages

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This posting is from: vanessa vegas
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hello all ill be out in vegas again in mid jan...and reallyy want to get
together with some of the gurls...also can someone tell when the big bash is in
vegas going to be....hugs to all

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This posting is from: JamieJansen
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Cynthia, What a wonderful job of explaining the information on the sky trip
makes me feel I would love to go along. I really enjoyed reading it all .
It;s something I always wanted to do.

Hug and Thanks from Jamie Jansen

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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Hi Cynthia,

I hope I didn't overwhelm you on the skiing stuff that
is needed. I've been skiing off and on for the last 20
yrs, and basically am at the intermediate slope level.
I wrote to let beginners know what to expect as
far as basic gear and stuff to be able to ski safely.

Its also pricey, since its reaching the $100 cost just
to ski, its not really a affordable cost to many attendees
so it will probably not attract very many. So I'm having
serious doubts it would work with DLV as a event.

If you want to snowboard, there are beginning lessons
only for that. Skiing and boarding are different.
You don't have to know how to ski before
learning to snow board. Both have lessons available on the
web site.

I gave snowboarding a chance for a few years, but when
given a choice, for me I would ski. I've never water skied,
but seen videos of it. Its different.

Snow boarding is more similar to riding a skateboard or
surfing. I've done skateboarding and bodyboarding surf.
I don't balance well standing on a surf board, so lying down
and surf body boarding was easier. I can skateboard, so
maybe that is why snowboarding wasn't that hard for me.

Snow boarding is more like surfing and skateboarding.
Instead of riding a wave for surfing, is the same like
skateboarding, the mountain is the 'wave'. One
uses similar techniques to maneuver. For snow boarding
it takes a lot more balance than skiing.

One stands sideways on the board using pressure on either
toes or heel to maneuver the board left or right.
This technique is similar to skiing where the applying of
pressure to the side of the ski will turn you in that direction.
For the snowboard its either the right side or left side,
for skiing you have to do it on one ski and
put pressure on the inside or outside of the ski. Stopping
and starting are different.

Gear is similar in that you still need goggles and gloves and
optional helmet. You will be renting the board and shoes
that fit into the mountings on the board. However
no pressure clamps like the ones on skis, the
board shoes are strapped and has a different way to
clamped in... at least the one's I've used. The snow
board shoes are not as ankle restrictive as ski boots.
They feel more like athletic shoes. They may have
improved on this since I last snow boarded. Knee
and elbow pads will be helpful also because when one is
learning, you will fall.. and fall many times. I also needed
a butt pad (was rented) when I learned for I would fall
many times on my butt. Since boarding requires balance,
to get the feel, one will fall quite often on your butt to
learn the feel. Again, the ice/snow is hard, and one can
easily hurt your tail bone, knee caps, and elbows and its not fun when
that happens. Also falling often, is gonna hurt after the lesson.
Snow boarding can be very physical, as in getting up when
you fall, and it happens quite often when starting, so its a
good workout on the legs and mid section. I was totally worn
out and out of breath from falling and getting up many many
times after about 1hr of the 2hr lesson. I brought alot of water
with me, and I was sweating.

There is alot of body movement, and most snow boarders
prefer looser clothing that spandex type or tighter fitting clothing.

There are alot more fun tracks, like half pipes and riding on
rails that snow boarders do and not skiers.

There was a development a few years ago called snow skis,
which are skis that are only as long as a snow board. This
enabled the skier to do the same thing as snow boarders do.

Snow boarding techniques are more simple than skiing.
So once you master the boarding techniques, you can
do the more advanced slopes faster than skiing, for there
is nothing more to learn as you tackle the advanced slopes.
Skiing requires more technique as one goes from intermediate
to advanced slopes. Once you can snowboard the
green slopes without falling, your fun will begin. Till
then, its hard work. Everyone including myself found
it easier to learn, and faster to overcome the advanced
slopes faster. On the average, everyone I talked to
said the fun started after about 3 to 4 days of learning
to snowboard, until then it was painful as in bruises on
the butt!

Hope this helps.

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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I'm in, don't have a car but can definate kick in for plenty gas. With
all the equipment, goggles, helmet etc. doubt if I will go in girl mode.

Question for you Kumiko: Can I begin with a snowboard, or do I have to
begin with skis first ?? I can water ski but its probably a lot
different.

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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Hi Jamie

Hope this doesn't disapoint you too badly, but that wasn't me
explaining the ski trip, that was Kumiko, isn't she marvelous? The
entire thing is all her idea and it is a really good one. Looks like
this may be comparable to the golf event or the shooting range if that
resort is going to be open in April and I'm excited about it. Kumiko,
keep us posted on it, OK? Cynthia

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What...you have to take lessons if you haven't skiied before? I never took a lesson, just went out with some friends. They showed me how to snowplow, and I did it. I crashed about a thousand times, and it wasn't much fun for the first few hours, but once I got the hang of it and started actually skiing, it was fantastic. I learned to make parallel turns by talking to and watching other skiiers, on the way up the lift. You need something to do aside from drinking from a bota bag and smoking pot.

Wearing makeup, boobies, etc...that's right out, although I can see a use for butt padding. When you take a good spill, everything that isn't very securely fastened to your person is going to end up somewhere else. Also, if you get injured, there is a chance that you'll be on your way to the hospital. You might want to be dressed appropriately.