dlv Slight schedule change, misc. items ...

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Welcome newcomers
Schedule change
Golf
Questions
High Tea
Main Street Station Review and Delmar Crash Site
Wooopsie
Ride
Like blonde, ya know
Boymode
LV Lounge
Roommate Clearing House (updated)
Web Sites
Summary Schedule of Activities (updated)
Latest headcount
Administrivia
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Only 73 days left, gang!
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Welcome newcomers:

We've had a number of registrations come in this past week, as everybody
can see by the numbers below.

In a few cases, people have noted that this will be their first time,
will not know anybody, may be nervous, etc. I've tried to catch these
and send each one a note to the effect that they may want to hook up
with one of our volunteer Big Sisters, either before DLV or during.

If I've missed anybody, I apologize.

Our volunteer Big Sisters are veteran DLV people who are available for
you either prior to DLV via e-mail, or during DLV should you need them.
If you have questions or concerns that you don't feel like posting to
this list, a Big Sister could help out. If you want an honest fashion
critique, a Big Sister can give you one. Even if you get the last minute
jitters and can't get the nerve to walk out of your hotel room, let us
know, we'll get a Big Sister over to you to assure you and escort you if
necessary.

If you would like to be matched up with a Big Sister, either via e-mail
prior to DLV and/or in person 1:1 during DLV, just send a brief note
to dlv@geekbabe.com (or just reply to this) with a note to the effect
of "Big Sister request" in the subject.
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Schedule change:

Slight change in our schedule.

We will be attending Frank Marino's La Cage show on Saturday evening,
May 4 as the feature activity of that evening. We're hoping to get
*EVERYBODY* out for this one! This is *THE* big evening for DLV.

We will be attending LaFemme, a newer production show on Thursday
evening, May 2.

This change was made to place the less expensive show (La Cage), and the
one easier to reserve tickets for, on the weekend, in order to maximize
the turnout Saturday evening.
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Golf:

The special DLVGOLF mailing list is now operational. Plans are being made
for golf on Friday morning, May 3. All further golf-related traffic will
be forwarded to the DLVGOLF list. To join the golf list, just send a brief
e-mail to: dlvgolf@geekbabe.com and say you want to be included.

Mindy writes:

>at the moment i am set to do las vegas golf again as it it the most
>forgiving course for the varity of players we have.. and also the
>lowest cost.. i can get an easier course for more money or a cheeper
>course that will cause wadded panties in the new golfers.

>also time for prize donations or pledges.. they do not need to be
>expensive..but would be fun if they were prizes in the sprit of diva.
>(ie green toe black socks dont work *LOL*) i am doing my best to make
>sure that every person who plays in fem gets a prize no matter how many
>"balls" they lose.

>and please get the girls to play in fem.. in the last 2 years the
>biggest incident involving diva girls at the golf course was requests
>to have photos taken with them.
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Questions:

>Hi, I just want to say I am looking forward to this so much. I've been on
>your list for years, but this year I'm going to do it. I'm psyched!
>I'm up! I'm ready to go tomorrow!

Well, if you show up tomorrow, you'll have to wait a couple months for
the rest of us. :)

Seriously, we are glad to have you with us. Glad you will be able to
make it.

>Got a couple-a questions. You talk about shows and dinners and how are
>we supposed to pay for that? Do we pay in advance? What? Your web page
>doesn't really say.

Everybody is on their own, money wise. For dinner, drinks, etc.,
everybody simply pays their tab.

For such things as the shows and the limo tour, there will be some
hoop-jumps such as headcounts and possibly an advance reservation and
payment. We're finalizing plans for the shows as I speak (or type) and
details will be announced shortly.

Any actions you will have to take in order to do a particular activity
will be announced in detail here in plenty of time to act.

>Do we have to go to all events, or can we skip the one's we're not
>really interested?

No, you can pick and choose as you like. Some people will go to all of
the activities, others will just hit the evening ones and do their own
thing during the days, etc.

>Lastly, are friends invited? I've got an e mail correspondent in Vegas
>who might be interested in coming to a few things. Is this ok?

Most definitely. The more the merrier!
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High Tea:

One of the local ladies, Mindy, will be host(ess)ing an English High Tea
on Sunday afternoon, May 5. Refreshments include tea, of course, and
English-style munchies. This is one of the new(er) activities on the
calendar below. Cost will be in the teens per person. More details will
be announced as the date approaches.

Thanks to Mindy for coordinating this.

This will be an option in addition to our planned afternoon trip to
Valley Of Fire. Those who want a more dressy daytime activity can do
High Tea, and those who want something more casual and touristy can
go to Valley Of Fire.
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Main Street Station Review and Delmar Crash Site:

Tina writes:

>>Main Street Station (downtown
>>area). The rooms are a little bigger than an avg hotel room...

>I saw Yvonne's room last year and it was quite nice. I visited her at
>Main Street Station several times and really liked the little casino -
>kind of an 1890's or California Gold Rush motif with lots of intricate
>woodworking and trim in the hotel lobby area. I have always had a
>negative image of downtown, but Main Street was a pleasant surprise.

>And it was very easy and fast to get on and off the freeway and into
>their parking lot.
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>>And ... we should probably add, that the Delmar Motel has very large
>>mirrors ... on the ceiling. Just what you want for checking yourself
>>out when you are, uh, doing your makeup while lying on the bed. :)

>If we ever had a treasury for DLV (heaven forbid!!), we should rent a
>suite at the Delmar for the entire week of DLV and use it as a late
>night crash pad.. I can just see all the drunken queens (like me!!)
>waking up on the floor and staring up at themselves in ceiling mirror.
>A sure-fire cure! :-)

ROFL! I love it! I'll donate to the cause! :)

And to think we freaked them out just driving a limo into their parking
lot last year! :)
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Wooopsie:

LeeAnna writes:

>Eeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkk ...... I must have had that blond wig on when I
>sent the 800 number for theTropicana instead of the Sahara.

>I really panicked when I thought I had made my res at the Tropicana...
>OHH NOOO! I checked and I am at the Sahara... so I am so sorry I sent
>the wrong number, I have no idea where it came from...

Apology accepted.

Oh, you'll have the chance to wear that blonde wig on Wednesday. :)
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Ride:

>I arrive on the morning of May 2, and plan to get dressed for the
>afternoon. I'm on the strip, next to the MGM Grand, aways from the
>{Sahara}. It seems a lotta girls are at the {Sahara}. I don't plan on
>renting a car unless I have to. Will I be able to get a ride from
>someone for any events happening on May 2?

If you are within walking distance of the MGM Grand, the only Thursday
activity you will need a ride to will be the Glamour Boutique Open House
and there will most certainly be a ride available. Thursday evening will
be the show (see schedule change above) at the MGM followed by the limo
tour, which will pick up at the MGM and drop off at the MGM and other
locations.

As we get closer to DLV time, we will match up drivers with riders.
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Like blonde, ya know:

Densie writes:

>>>(wonder what the liqueur of choice for Annie will be this year...giggle)

>>Well, I know what it >>WON'T<< be. <vbfg>

>That's assuming that you'll have a choice...

>>>please let me know. I am planning on all around girl stuff... like
>>>gossip, doing each others nails, hair styles and such, talking

>Hmm...I'm already grown up and married. I guess Tony and I can be the
>"parents who are away for the night". Maybe we'll just take in a
>bisque show or something.

>>>Actually, volunteers aren't necessary. Blondes are historically very
>>>accurate guides and pathfinders. It's a little known fact that
>>>Sacajawea was a blonde.

>I think Pancho Villa was blond too.

>>So was Joan of Arc, Emelia Earhart, and Charo.

>Umm...didn't Emilia Earhart get lost and drive her airplane into the
>ocean?

>>>Every girl deserves a chance to experience that special feminine
>>>delight of being a blonde, and DLV offers you that chance this year.
[like snip, totally, fer-shure]

>Yes, it's great being blonde. Waiters always hover around your table,
>stores usually give you stuff for free, and when you turn 18, you get
>to move to Malibu and they give you a beach house and a pink Corvette.

>All seriousness aside, I think that most people look best with the
>hair color that Mother Nature gave them. Hair dye looks like hair dye.

>However, the blonde for a day thing sounds like fun...just the kind of
>thing that girls would do together.

>>Elevators are s-l-o-w at many hotels. IIRC, at the IP, there is a
>>second large bank of elevators toward the front that is a lot quicker
>>than the main one back there by the shops. Also, IIRC, there is a
>>stealth elevator toward the rear of the tower complex that is much
>>quicker, and not well known.

>I think I know the one you're talking about. I was totally turned
>around when I first got to the IP. I had never been to Vegas before,
>and I just couldn't believe that you had to go through the casino to
>get to a room.

IMAO, the interior of the IP hotel portion is one of the most confusing
there is. The towers, built one at a time since the days of the old
Flamingo Capri, seem to be put wherever they would fit.

>I think I asked directions and received vectors to
>that stealth elevator before I discovered the main ones, but when I
>came back down and walked along that ramp that runs from the the
>parking garage out to the Strip, I was overcome by the noxious fumes
>(is that sewer gas or rotting flesh?). That smell, even though it
>isn't in the rooms, is just one of the things that really turns me off
>about the IP.

I've never smelled that. I know there are boocoo exhaust fumes in the
garage, and in the drive to the front.

Actually, I can see such a smell occurring right after a heavy rain. A
normally-dry desert wash (Flamingo Wash) runs right thru that area, and
I've seen the lower level of the parking garage at the IP and the
cut-thru tunnel by Harrah's that leads back to Audrie St. flooded
with some very icky water a couple times.

>I think we'll go with the Sahara or the Strat this year,
>but I still haven't heard the rates we're supposed to get for
>Boardwalk...any news on that?

I had hoped to have them by this mailing. I sent a reminder Friday but
I have not heard back. I held this mailing as long as I could, hoping
to include it.
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Boymode:

>Hi, I don't dress in public, and if you see me you'll know why. I
>was wondering if it's cool to come join you En Drab? Is that ok?

Boymode dress is fine at any of our activities, as long as you're
comfortable with it.

>And I'm not a Tranny-Chaser either, so don't worry about that.

We won't worry about it. We really don't have any prohibitions against
admirers, but historically we don't see too many of them.
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LV Lounge:

>Hi Annie, i've done a little bit of investigating about the club/bar
>scene in Las Vegas. I uncovered the Las Vegas Lounge, 900 Karen Ave.
>Las Vegas, that caters to the transgender community.

We know the LV Lounge well. We used it for two gatherings each in 2000
and 2001.

It changed significantly between DLV 2000 and DLV 2001.

In 2000 it was a nice neighborhood bar which catered to the GLBT
clientele. It was well liked by our people.

In 2001 the atmosphere had changed. In the middle of the evening,
professional "dancers" came on stage, the music was cranked to
non-conversational levels, and the drink prices escalated significantly.

For one of our gatherings there, most of the crowd wandered over to
Goodtimes when the music was cranked, the other time, everybody just
scattered to the winds, which is a Bad Thing on our last DLV evening. :(

Here's one of the feedback comments from last year ...

+>OK at first, but I didn't care much for the loud music, the lap dancing
+>sluts, and the drooling perverts who began to inhabit the place as soon
+>as the dancing started. Might be OK during the day. We went to
+>Goodtimes and had more fun there, played some pool and had a few drinks.

The last report I heard (December last year, iirc) was that the
atmosphere was even less refined and somewhat confrontive.

We have not seriously considered it for any of our feature activities
this year mainly due to the fact that too many people voted with their
feet in 2001. I'm sure some of our people (maybe you, even me, maybe)
will wander in there sometime, and based on what we see and hear, we
may or may not consider it for a feature activity in 2003.

>When I called, the guy there did not know about Diva Las Vegas. But it
>might be a place to check out when we get there.

I'm very surprised. They sure got a lot of our bar business back in 2000
and 2001, although in 2001 the crowd scattered when the music was
cranked.

Deb, the (current? former?) owner sure knew of us. When I was in LV
between 1999 and 2000 they had just opened and some of the local ladies
took me there. She gave us the grand tour, showed off the kitchen
facilities which were supposed to open Real Soon Now, etc., and
invited our business.

In 2000 it was a popular place, and kind of a default after-hours
meeting place for our people.

Bars change. If it's changed to where more of our people would like
it, word will get out and we will start using it again.

>There is some information about the gay, bi, transgender scene at
>www.gayvegas.com.

You might also want to check out the following:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/lvthings.html

That has information gathered mainly from the people of DLV over the
past 5+ years.
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Roommate Clearing House (updated):

This will be an ongoing section whenever there are current roommate
items. Items will be posted until we get a note to remove them. If you
are interested in sharing a room with the individual(s) below, please
contact directly using the e-mail address(es) below.

Please keep in mind that any roommate arrangements are a private matter
between the cooperating parties only. DLV organizers and volunteers are
not responsible if there are problems or if things don't work out. We do
absolutely no screening of roommate candidates. Everything is at the
risk of those involved.
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Room available

Name: Cindy
e-mail address: cdfan6@aol.com
Arriving: Wednesday, May 1
Leaving: Friday, May 3
Do you have a room to share, or do you need space in one: Room to share

Any annoying habits or traits: Non smoker but ok if you do.
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Room available

Name: LeeAnna
e-mail address: LeeAnnaCD@aol.com
Arriving: Monday, April 29
Leaving: Sunday, May 5
Do you have a room to share, or do you need space in one: Room to share

Any annoying habits or traits: I am a non-smoker. I request the same.

Comments: Maybe one of the new girls that needs a sister needs to share
a room???
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Web Sites:

This is an ongoing list of noncommercial web sites of DLV people. If you
would like to see yours added here, just reply to this mailing with your
name and URL.

DLV main page http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/

annie http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/
Denise (Densie) http://www.geekbabe.com/admaero/
Tina http://home.swbell.net/tinatdre/
Mindy http://www.fortunecity.com/village/freedom/785/index.htm
Cat http://profiles.yahoo.com/dodiamonds
or http://www.geocities.com/dodiamonds
Dorothy http://dorothy_d.homestead.com/home.html
Rhianna http://members.aol.com/rhiannacd
Julie http://www.geocities.com/julie7_46/
Monique http://www.leggitv.com/
Ginger http://www.geocities.com/latexia_g/
Micheline http://www.micheline.ca
Michelle http://www.idis.com/mpj/
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Summary Schedule of Activities (updated):

Date Day Time Activity
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Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Milano's Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together

May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
Morning
Afternoon
Evening Dinner (tentative) and Welcome celebration
After Karaoke, Goodtimes
Later Slumber Party (and swap meet)

May 02 Thu Morning Air tours
Afternoon Glamour Boutique Open House
Evening LaFemme (production show) MGM Grand
After Limo tour

May 03 Fri Morning Golf (See notes about golf mailing list)
Afternoon Carluccio's Dinner (5:00pm)
Evening Goodtimes Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night

May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
Evening La Cage (Frank Marino) Riviera
Midnight Rocky Horror Picture Show

May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip, Valley of Fire
-or- English High Tea
Evening Buffet dinner, Palace Station
Farewell Get-together

This schedule is tentative and not complete, subject to change.
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Latest headcount:

Sun Feb 17 04:05:00 CST 2002
Ppant signup: 51
SO signup: 15
Total signup: 66
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