pinball museum in LV

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This posting is from: Marisa
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A possible activity for you pinball wizards! pinballmuseum.org

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This posting is from: annie
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> An excellent idea! I've been there, its a blast on a roll or
> two of quarters, hours of fun. Keep it in mind. The "LV Eagle"
> saloon is just across the street, too, Trop. and Pecos, I think;
> it's 'dumpy' but its gay.

They tell me (you know, "they") that the Pinball Museum has
moved into a larger facility, still on Trop, but right across
from Goodtimes. (Which is also gay, and some claim is dumpy.) :)

Now (DLV organizer's hat on), all it takes for this to happen
is for someone (Marisa? anyone?) to "adopt" it, pick a timeslot,
and coordinate with ORG to get it on the schedule. Since Marisa
brought it up, she has first refusal rights to do it. If she
doesn't want to, anyone can volunteer to host(ess) it.

Even if we don't put it on the schedule, it could easily be a
stop or a sidebar for our Pub Crawl on Tuesday this year,
since we almost always hit Goodtimes on this.

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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Marisa,

An excellent idea! I've been there, its a blast on a roll or
two of quarters, hours of fun. Keep it in mind. The "LV Eagle"
saloon is just across the street, too, Trop. and Pecos, I think;
it's 'dumpy' but its gay.

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This posting is from: Marisa
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I'll let someone else host this,it should be easy. Annie is correct
about the new location,closer to the strip. Marisa

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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I remember at time in the 60s at bowling alleys that had pin ball
machines, it was only for those 18 and older, specifically because
of some sort of gambling aspect those machines at that time.
My understanding too that they had alot of them in bars.

I was too young at that time and never allowed to play. Some
looked like std pin ball games, and another type with alot of
numbers and holes that looked like some sort of keno type game
where the pin ball would fall in a hole with a number related to it.

Later anyone could play, where getting so much points or landing
the ball after a sequence gave only an extra play or another free game.
The keno type game disappeared completely.

So the question is ... was there ever gambling associated with
pin ball ? and for those that have gone to this museum, if they
exist, does this museum have them?

In the 60s I got hooked on those analog shooting gallery games,
where targets would pop up, or one shoots at moving targets.
Those were the only ones we could play as a kid, and not related
to pin ball at all.

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This posting is from: annie
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> I'll let someone else host this,it should be easy. Annie is correct
> about the new location,closer to the strip. Marisa

Anybody care to "adopt" this activity? New volunteers are, of course,
most welcome to do so. This type of thing would qualify you for
voting status in the volunteer force.

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This posting is from: annie
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> I remember at time in the 60s at bowling alleys that had pin ball
> machines, it was only for those 18 and older, specifically because
> of some sort of gambling aspect those machines at that time.
> My understanding too that they had alot of them in bars.

When I was growing up, pinball machines were, techically, illegal
in the city, but they were around, and they were popular with
high-school age kids, if you could find them. In those days, you
could drink at age 18, but pinball machines were, officially,
verboten.

> So the question is ... was there ever gambling associated with
> pin ball ? and for those that have gone to this museum, if they
> exist, does this museum have them?

The controversy was that some operators would "pay off" the player
for the free games accumulated. A certain score, or such things
as a "special when lit" rollover racked up a free game, with a
very distinctive >>CLACK<< when it happened. Some of the machines
I remember had a matching feature, where a random 0-9 digit was
generated and if your score's last digit matched, >>CLACK<< a
"replay" (free game).

Most of the machines had a wheel counter which accumuulated
free games up to 9. Although very illegal, it was not unknown
for operators to "pay off" players for the free games and then
reset the counter to zero by unplugging and restarting the
game.

> In the 60s I got hooked on those analog shooting gallery games,
> where targets would pop up, or one shoots at moving targets.
> Those were the only ones we could play as a kid, and not related
> to pin ball at all.

I admit to getting hooked on the original Donkey Kong in the
early 80s. :) Video arcades were very popular around here
in those days and I and my SO spent countless hours (and
countless quarters) playing them.

LOL, not to admit my real age, but I actually remember
playing "pong" for $.25 a shot on a table-top bar machine
in the 70s. :)

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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In all honesty I think the pinball museum is too small a gig
to require a hostess, but it would make a great pit stop on
a bar crawl.

I would, however, be more than happy to host the bar across
the street, but you'll have to buy me a drink to get in.

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This posting is from: annie
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> In all honesty I think the pinball museum is too small a gig
> to require a hostess, ...

The reason we want a designated hostess for most anything
we put on the schedule, even the small ones, is so there
will always be at least one friendly face, a representative
of the group, who is sure to be there.

Many in our community, particularly those who are newly-out,
are very uneasy walking into a place cold. If they know
there will be a DLV hostess there, they are much more likely
to show up, and therefore enjoy it.

We're really trying to emphasize hospitality and inclusion
this year. We don't want anyone to get left out, and we
want to avoid cases where somebody shows up and there is
no DLV representative there.

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This posting is from: Genevieve
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actually as a specific answer to the question, I was just at the pinball
hall of fame a couple of weeks ago and I saw a could of the "gambling"
pinball machines on display with explanations on them.

one machine had a series of holes in it that a ball would shoot out and
then fall into them and supposedly the random odds were exactly the same
as in craps and it was a way of in effect "simulating" a craps game
while appearing to be "for amusement only" and people could essentially
play craps without the authorities getting wise to it.

in response to the statement about the "match 0-9 for free game" just
about every machine in there does have that feature, and it does make a
pretty loud -clack- when you win it.

the place is a cool venue, all the games in there are playable and there
is a wide variety of old and new games, and it is not just pinball
machines they have some vintage arcade cabinets as well, like Donkey
Kong and Space Invaders

and they do have a couple of those analog shooting gallery games as well

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