San Remo/Hooters

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This posting is from: Danielle
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It says on the website that San Remo is tolerant of us and that it will
remain tolerant when it becomes Hooters. I'm just curious - the hotel
will be tolerant but the restaurant isn't? Correct me if I'm wrong but
aren't sports bars death traps for us? And therefore wouldn't the
Hooters hotel not tolerate us?

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This posting is from: annie
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>It says on the website that San Remo is tolerant of us and that it will
>remain tolerant when it becomes Hooters.

This was based on a report from some of the local people shortly after
the plans to adopt the Hooters brand were announced. That was their
impression after talking to the staff there.

>I'm just curious - the hotel
>will be tolerant but the restaurant isn't?

I speculate that if your money is green and you behave as a lady or
gentleman (whichever you prefer), they (both hotel, restaurant, etc.)
will be happy to serve you.

>Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't sports bars death traps for us?

Maybe, maybe not. Any place that attracts jockish types is probably not
the best location for a t-party (the mixture of alcohol and testosterone
is explosive under the best of circumstances).

However, I know of one sports bar that does get occasional t* business
and I've never heard of any incidents.

I think the key is to treat Hooters as any other mainstream venue.

A mainstream venue means mainstream dress and mainstream behavior. If
you dress to blend and don't push things, I'm sure you will be well
received.

Conversely if you wear something that's more appropriate for a costume
party than for the general public and act in a manner that attracts
attention, you may have some issues.

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This posting is from: Tina Tawdre
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>>Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't sports bars death traps for us?

That's a very good way to put it. But, that's just my personal opinion,
being sick to death of insults from fratboy types being out in public
here in a college town and also not really wanting to compete with the
Hooters girls.

>I think the key is to treat Hooters as any other mainstream venue.

>A mainstream venue means mainstream dress and mainstream behavior. If
>you dress to blend and don't push things, I'm sure you will be well
>received.

In this particular instance, I have to respectfully disagree. What can
work at the Hard Rock or Hamburger Mary's or Denny's just inherently has
an added risk factor due to the very nature of the Hooter's
(reminiscent of) titty bar environment. Why bother?

Sincerely,

-- Tina Tawdre

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This posting is from: Rhianna
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Although not Hooters, Monique and I have been to TGIFriday's and Outback
in Denver last September. TGIF is somewhat of a sports bar/restaurant
and have received nothing less that the most courteous reception while
there. The key, dress for the occasion; you know, when in Rome, do as
the Roman's do.

On another occasion, Linda & I went to a place in Scottsdale called
Billy Bob's. The name itself was reason enough for me to say, "Are you
nuts? Enter a place with such a name in grrl mode?" I was wrong; no
unsavoury incidents. In fact, the reception was all the opposite to
what I would have expected. Linda still hasn't let me live that one
down.

The most recent such event was this past weekend at a local TG gathering
in Phoenix called the Glitz Ball. On Saturday night while in the hotel
bar, several bikers bame in and I do mean bikers. Black leather
jackets with the Harley logo on the back, not eagles. And Harleys,
ooeeeee. Six of them parked out front. They walked by me and a few
others as they went to the patio. Trina saw them and knowing I wanted
to get a pic on a Harley,, said to me, "Here's your chnace." Again, I
though she was crazy. She went out to the patio and a few minutes
later returned with David. The photo shoot was on. YABBA DABBA
DOOOOOOO. We both spent a few hours with David and his wife. That was
the best part of the Glitz weekend. The piccies will be in my website
very soon.

The above incidents are not a goferit signal that all such moments are
ok. One has to have what I call "intuition" and a certain method of
approach. That night, Trina had it. On other nights, I've had it.
One comes to mind from a few years ago. There were a few of us in a
night club. At the bar was a fella sitting alone and I noticed he was
internittently glancing our way. He reminded me of myself so many
years ago; very shy. This time, Trina thought I was crazy to approach
him. So, I sat beside him for a minute or so and when he didn't look
my way, I tapped him on the shoulder. When he turned my way, I said,
"Hieeee, tot ya might like some company." We chatted for quite some
time.
Trina was surprised to say the least.

I can't give any advice or suggestions on how the above can be done but
it does show that one shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Success in
such endeavours depends a lot on how one feels about it at the moment.
Best I can say about the feeling is when ya meet the one ya want to
marry. Somehow, one just "knows" it but it defies explanation.

Things are not always as they appear. And it does work both ways. But,
in a place like Hooters, the worst you'll experience is an embarrassing
laughter. If you're up to it, you can usually win fi you're confident
with yourself. Walking into such a place as if you're walking on eggs
isn't going to cut it.

Monique Monet was the first whi said this to me. "In real estate, it is
said that three things affect the value of a property, location,
location and location. So it is in the TG community with regard to the
mainstream. One needs three things, attitude, attitude and attitude."
(confidence, confidence and confidence).

As Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in his first Inaugural Address, 1933,
during one of the worst moments of the depression, "The only thing we
have to fear is fear itself."

Rhianna

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This posting is from: Mindy
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several of us have gone to the hooters at sunset station and had a great
time.. in fact there is a pic of me with the hooters staff up on the
wall.

mindy

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This posting is from: Monique
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Thank you Rhianna for your usual 'explicative' description. Rhianna is
right on the money. It really doesn't matter if you go out to a GLBT
friendly venue or a mainstream place. It's all about how you dress and
present yourself. I've never had one problem in a mainstream place,
even with my deep voice. I'll tell ya'll this, the next time I have a
chance to be in Vegas, I'll stay at the San Remo - being a Hooter's
property or not. I've been to so many mainstream places, dressed
appropriately, and have always have had a wonderful and enjoyable
time....even other patrons striking up conversations with me and/or my
TG guests.

I know it can be a bit scary to go out in mainstream. My suggestion to
you is to go with some 'experienced' sisters that have been out
mainstream which will minimize your nerves. That is how I got started,
another sister took me out mainstream for the first time several years
ago. I'll tell ya, I never went back to being scared.

Check out and talk to other DLV sisters that have been out mainstream. They'd
be happy to help!

Huggs,

Monique Danielle Monet

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This posting is from: Denise McCracken
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>It says on the website that San Remo is tolerant of us and that it will
>remain tolerant when it becomes Hooters. I'm just curious -

You weren't actually thinking of going there, were you?

-densie

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This posting is from: Denise McCracken
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>As Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in his first Inaugural Address, 1933,
>during one of the worst moments of the depression, "The only thing we
>have to fear is fear itself."

Yeah, but fear can be pretty scary sometimes.

-densie

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This posting is from: annie
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>>It says on the website that San Remo is tolerant of us and that it will
>>remain tolerant when it becomes Hooters. I'm just curious -

>You weren't actually thinking of going there, were you?

If they still have their prime rib special, I might show up there. :)
Seriously, it's not bad at all.

I don't think I would stay there, having heard some horror stories from
you and others, but I know we have people who are already booked there
this year.

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This posting is from: Jamie Renae
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I have found, by living in Arkansas, that fear is self inflicted most
times.

I stayed at the SR in 2003 and had a great time. The only problem was
with a desk clerk, that had way too much testosterone, plus he was short
and fat.

I have always been treated very good in the bar and resturant. I would
have no qualms about visiting them again. Maybe I could get a cute T
shirt.

Jamie R

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