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In this mailing:

Welcome
Headcounts, tickets, reservations, etc.
SO's gathering, etc.
Frontier Airlines price drop
Sahara reservation games
Metamorphosis
Hotels
Mailbag
Some Metamorphosis notes
Admirers
Another Sahara rate hike
Golf
Roommate Clearing House
Web Sites
Summary Schedule of Activities (updated)
Administrivia
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Only 38 days left, gang!
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Welcome:

Once again, several new people registered or joined the list in the last
week. Welcome to DLV. We're looking forward to seeing everybody in real
life in just over a month. You will want to be sure to make your travel
and hotel arrangements without delay, as prices are rising and space
is becoming tighter as the days go by.

We have a couple mailing list issues. If for some reason you are not
receiving these mailings, or those of other DLV lists, please let us
know. If you subscribed to the DLV Golf list and have not seen mailings
come in, please speak up. Also, if you know of anybody who signed up for
this list and is not receiving the mailings, please let us know. We've
had some problems with some Hotmail and some sissify.com addresses
lately.

I'm also just a bit behind in correspondence, as mail traffic has been
quite heavy. I'm trying not to miss or to space off anything. If you've
sent in something and don't either get a response or see in it a mailing
by next Sunday (March 31), please accept my apology and remind me.
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Headcounts, tickets, reservations, etc.:

For those of you who have wondered about purchasing tickets, reserving
space for some activities, etc., here's how things are going to work.

Most of our activities are simply show-up activities. No sign-up, except
for the normal DLV registration, just show up at the correct place and
time. (Excruciatingly detailed schedule, explicit driving directions,
and a map will be sent to those who are registered about a week before
DLV.)

There are a number of them where space may be limited, where an advance
sign-up is required, or where a headcount is needed. On Wednesday, April
3, we will send out a special mailing detailing each of these activities
and specifically listing what must be done in order to join in on those
particular activities.

This will be followed by a personalized mailing to all who appear on
the DLV registration list, with a clickable link to a headcount screen
containing checkboxes for each of those activities. Everybody will be
asked to click on that link and be counted for what they wish to attend.

Changing your mind will be easy, just click on that link again and
resubmit.

For those activities where space may be limited, it will be first-signed,
first-served. Your "place in line" will be determined by the date/time
of your first affirmative response to that particular activity.

The actual headcount mailing will be sent out only to those who have
registered for DLV 2002. You may register on line at:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/reg.html
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SO's gathering, etc.:

Mindy writes:

>my personal goddess has spoken. SO activity will be from 3 to 5 pm
>friday LTBA... but plan is cocktails and munchies at a non diva venue
>(she thinks so's need a break from gay clubs and casinos).

>contrary to most diva events this will be so's only. guess she wants a
>time for notes and conversations about us *g*. exected cost will be $5
>(only one drink honey) to $25 (moment on the lips forever on the
>hips).,she wants a little feedback as to strip location or some really
>nice off the strip mainstream location. she mentioned tgi fridays or
>manhatten for off strip or private use of boardwalk showroom for on
>strip.

>re motto: "live the dream"

>re dress: girls its usually hot.. but can be windy.. i have been her
>for a lot of years and out.. day wear is casual fem. i favor sun
>dresses or halter tops and jeans for day wear. evening is open but
>remeber if you wear it somebody will notice it. trash wear on the strip
>is not a good idea but glam after sundown is kewl. in vegas glam can be
>anything from evening gown to mini skirt. but remeber the better you
>pass the trashier you can dress. me i save trash for a club night. sun
>screen,, get a large tube.. extra hair spray.. chap stick.. and
>mositurizer.. lots of mosturizer.. if you come from a wet low area..
>plan to drink lots and lots of water.
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Frontier Airlines price drop:

Frontier Airlines has just announced $106 round trip tickets from some
markets it serves to Las Vegas. This fare is real and bookable and is
valid over the DLV period. Travel must be made on Tuesday, Wednesday,
or Saturday. No flight restrictions, but seats may be limited.
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Sahara reservation games:

(slightly edited)

>>I just called Sahara reservations. They say they want $109.00 for Friday
>>and Saturday!!! What's going on?

>TRavelocity gives me Sahara $55 for Tue-Thu and $95 for Sat and Sun.
>What's to say you couldn't reserve Tue-Thu on their site, and Sat-Sun
>on Travelocity. Have you ever tried it before?

The weekday rate is definitely cheaper when booking directly with the
hotel. Note below says Sahara is now up to $119 directly, so that's over
$25 per day, over $50 for the weekend you would save with Travelocity.

The absolute worst they could do to you, and that would be if some desk
person just wanted to be a schmuck about it, would be to make you check
out of your hotel-booked room on Friday and into your Travelocity-booked
room. I don't see that happening, since they want to keep customers
happy. I'm sure if you presented both reservations when you checked in,
they would arrange it so you could keep the same room.

For the past three years, I've actually had two reservations, one for
the N+I period which was made by our company's travel people, and one
for DLV which I made personally. These are both Genuine Sahara<tm>
reservations, and I've always presented both at check-in and they have
never even questioned it.

I know of people who have actually moved from one hotel to another on
Friday to save $$$, but never of anybody who booked days separately to
do so ... yet. If you do it, please report on anything unusual.
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Metamorphosis:

>>Note that the minimum dress code is evening gown or tux. You can
>>either go from La Cage, assuming you dress up for this, or change
>>into something more, uh, appropriate on your way. :)

>>Again, this is not for everybody.

>Can you give me more information about this? Where will it be? I take
>it will not be an official Diva event,right?

It is organized separately from DLV. Only connection is that it happens
on the DLV weekend and that some of our people will be attending.

>How long will it last? Where will it be? What ages is it for? Will
>there be music, what kind? Bar or dry? Full of questions, huh?

Some of these are answered in Tina's notes below. More information will
come out in this list as soon as we get it.
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Hotels:

Tina writes:

Don't delay.

>Each day's delay on booking is probably costing you money. I travel a
>lot and one of the chains my company uses for volume discounts is
>Hilton, so I get a lot of generally worthless promotional e-mail from
>them.

>Just got one for a "special" starting May 1: 2 nights mid-week for
>$129 total or 2 weekend nights for $169 total. And they had to put in
>big letters that THE PURPOSE OF THIS MATERIAL IS AN ATTEMPT TO SELL YOU
>TIMESHARE INTEREST IN NEVADA.

>Good Old Hilton. Overcharge you and try to screw you at the same time.
>Unless you want to get stuck in this kind of situation, better make
>those hotel reservations today. Rates are going up for the time period
>of DLV. We want to see you at DLV.

>Hope to see you there.
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Mailbag:

>I want to go to Diva Las Vegas. The Metamorphosis Fantasy Ball sounds
>like a lot of fun. Approximately how far will it be from the Sahara?

That we do not know yet. We don't know the location for this, and may
not know it right up until it happens. The people who are planning it
have been very quiet about where it will actually take place.

Rides should be available wherever it is.

Some more comments about the Metamorphosis thing appear in this mailing.

>I have a small RV and a car. My previous plans were to take the RV, but
>it wouldn't be very convenient for getting around in Las Vegas. Also I
>will need outside parking for it where ever I go. If I can work it out
>I will take the car.

Sahara does have a large outside parking lot behind the complex. I don't
know what the rules on parking RV's there are, but I'm sure a quick call
to their operator would find out.

>It is too bad about the price increases at the Sahara. But I want to
>be centrally located, and with the other attendees.

Yes, this is not uncommon at all, as the date approaches.
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Some Metamorphosis notes:

Tina sends in these notes about the upcoming Metamorphosis:

>First, let me say that I have attended many fetish events over the
>years. I travel frequently because of work, and have lost count of the
>number of times I have attended weekly fetish parties over the years
>like Bound in DC and Abby Ehmann's Gomorrah in NYC, and annual events
>like the Texas Latex Ball and Houston HPEP's S&M Ball #9 (this weekend
>in Houston for those of you on the move).

>Some are pure fetish fashion (latex, leather, and all sorts of erotic
>and often skimpy clothing in-between), while others have more of an
>S&M (sadism and masochism) orientation where significant bondage and
>pain scenes are the main focus and fashion is secondary. Personally,
>I like both types of parties, but they certainly aren't everybody's
>cup of tea.

>Second, let me say that I know next to nothing about Metamorphosis
>because it is *brand new*. The first one hasn't even happened yet! It
>will occur during the 1st weekend of April. The 2nd one is scheduled
>for the 1st weekend of May, during DLV. It's a monthly party.

>I do like a couple of things about the way that they are organizing it.

>I like the fact that they are keeping its location secret to discourage
>looky-loos (vanilla type gawkers). That's also smart advertising
>practice on the part of the party organizers. Increased mystery
>increases its cachet. Banning cameras is smart, if it's enforced.
>Putting a limit on the number of single males is a good idea also, if
>it's enforced. Music is usually that thumping dance music called house
>(used to be techno or industrial or bass and drums, or any of various
>other genre names). It's fun to dance to.

>I've never been to one that didn't have a bar, unless they allowed full
>nudity, like the S&M clubs in NYC like Vault and Hellfire. I am sure
>that Metamorphosis is not that kind of party. They were very explicit
>in their ad copy about no sexual contact.

>I've read the descriptive material about Metamorphosis, and it sounds
>more like the typical couples fashion fetish party, where the crowd is
>typically hetero and young 20's, usually thin, often with a heavy
>sprinkling of Goth kids. (Doesn't sound like a typical DLV
>demographic, which is why I was planning to skip it, but I know some
>DLV girls will find it fascinating.) Again, pure speculation on my
>part, based on the crowds I see at other fetish parties in other
>cities. An interesting question will be if they pull in more
>fashionable 30's and 40's types from the casino scene.

>I will say that typically the number of t* girls at these types of
>parties is very, very small. I have always felt welcome, but have
>usually attended singly which made me something of a novelty, helping
>me strike up conversations more easily. (And I often attend the ones
>that have a BDSM bent because I would be participating actively in
>those activities and you usually have to be a regular to fit into that.
>I don't think you'll see that at Metamorphosis anyway.) If you attend
>Metamorphosis with a big gaggle of DLV girls, you will have to make an
>effort to mingle, rather than just standing around in a big group.

>I would expect it to last until 4 AM, but again, it's brand new, so who
>knows?

>>Is this the same as the Dressed To Thrill ball they had there last year?

>No. Definitely not. Dressed To Thrill is a copyrighted name owned by
>Mistress Antoinette of Versatile Fashions, a major supplier of fetish
>fashion wear. She started and sponsors the annual Dressed to Thrill
>Fetish Fashion Ball held annually in Las Vegas. Versatile's showroom
>is in Orange, CA. (I note that their Anaheim showroom is listed as
>temporarily closed.) Dressed To Thrill is usually either in May or
>June, but I don't see any announcements about it this year so far. See
?http://www.versatilefashions.com/ and http://www.ms-antoinette.com/
>(this 2nd is a pay site, but you can browse a few Dressed To Thrill
>pictures from previous years for free, if you click deep enough). One
>special thing about Dressed To Thrill, besides the absolutely gorgeous
>clothes is the total acceptance of all things GLBT there.

>By the way, Versatile does advertise on their home page as being a
>t-friendly company, and I have always found them so when shopping with
>them. They do work with me on special sizing and custom cuts. They're
>a little pricy, but you get what you pay for.,
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Admirers:

>I've looked at the registration form for DLV (i.e., the question: how
>experienced are you at dressing in public?), and it appears from that
>that admirers are not expected to attend. Is that correct?

We do not discriminate at all.

Yes, we've had admirers, both male and female attend, and we've never
had any problems. Anybody of legal age who identifies with the theme of
DLV and agrees to act as a lady or gentleman (or both, at times) will be
welcome to attend.
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Another Sahara rate hike:

>I just checked the revervation site at www.saharavegas.com. They are
>listing May 3 and 4 at $119 per night! Can Diva Las Vegas get a
>discount on this price? Or do you think I might get a discount through
>one of the online biiking agencies?

My suggestion is to book NOW, whether it's the Sahara site or on one of the
discounters such as hoteldiscounts.com.

This is two increases within the past couple weeks or so, a sure sign the
place is filling up. It will probably be sold out shortly for that weekend.

No, we have no mechanism in place to negotiate a special rate.
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Golf:

For those of you who want to play golf with the group, which is
scheduled for Friday morning, May 3, a separate golf mailing list has
been set up do discuss this and make plans. If you are interested in
playing golf, just send a brief note to: dlvgolf@geekbabe.com and say
you want to be added to the golf list.
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Roommate Clearing House:

This will be an ongoing section whenever there are current roommate
items. Items will be posted until we get a note to remove them. If you
are interested in sharing a room with the individual(s) below, please
contact directly using the e-mail address(es) below.

Please keep in mind that any roommate arrangements are a private matter
between the cooperating parties only. DLV organizers and volunteers are
not responsible if there are problems or if things don't work out. We do
absolutely no screening of roommate candidates. Everything is at the
risk of those involved.
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Name: Cathy Linn
Email: cathylinn67227@yahoo.com
Arriving: 04/29/2002
Departing: 05/06/2002
Hotel: Have room to share at Sahara

Comments: Have a room to share at the Sahara. Need nice room mate that
parties. I party, drink, smoke and play around. Im a wild party Girl and
looking for the same.
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Web Sites:

This is an ongoing list of noncommercial web sites of DLV people. If you
would like to see yours added here, just reply to this mailing with your
name and URL.

Another note, we do no screening of these. Some may be inappropriate for
minors or for those easily offended. You have been warned. :)

DLV main page http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/

DLV People Gallery http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/gallery/

annie http://www.geekbabe.com/annie/
Denise (Densie) http://www.geekbabe.com/admaero/
Tina http://home.swbell.net/tinatdre/
Mindy http://www.fortunecity.com/village/freedom/785/index.htm
Cat http://profiles.yahoo.com/dodiamonds
or http://www.geocities.com/dodiamonds
Dorothy http://dorothy_d.homestead.com/home.html
Rhianna http://members.aol.com/rhiannacd
Julie http://www.geocities.com/julie7_46/
Monique http://www.leggitv.com/
Ginger http://www.geocities.com/latexia_g/
Micheline http://www.micheline.ca
Michelle http://www.idis.com/mpj/
Samantha http://members.tgforum.com/samantha_nc/
Marilyn http://profiles.yahoo.com/marilyncd_2000
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Summary Schedule of Activities (updated):

Date Day Time Activity
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Apr 30 Tue Morning
Afternoon Welcome Dinner
Evening Pre-DLV get-together

May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day
Morning
Afternoon Hidden Woman Open House
Evening Dinner and Welcome celebration
After Karaoke
Later Slumber Party (and swap meet)

May 02 Thu Morning Air tours
Afternoon Glamour Boutique Open House
-or- Swimming party
Evening LaFemme (production show)
After Limo tour

May 03 Fri Morning Golf (See notes about golf mailing list)
Afternoon SO's get-together
Evening Dinner
Annual Mixer
Late Night Dance Night

May 04 Sat Morning
Afternoon Mall Crawl
-or- Makeup demo
Evening La Cage (Frank Marino)
After Metamorphosis Fantasy Ball
-or- Bar/club tour

May 05 Sun Morning
Afternoon Side trip, Valley of Fire
-or- English High Tea
Evening Buffet dinner
Farewell Get-together

This schedule is tentative and not complete, subject to change.
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