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Misc. items:

The e-mail directory has been sent out. If you submitted your name and
did not receive a copy, please let me know. If anybody still wants to
submit their name and e-mail address, we can send an update in about
a week or so.

Thanks to everybody who has sent in photos. I think everything I've
received (except some of mine, which I am still scanning --- long
process) is now on line. Everything (I think) has now been adjusted, if
necessary, and normalized for size. URL for the staging area is:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dlv2001/staging/

I've received some second and third hand RHPS feedback. Apparently there
have been some problems with the cast lately, cast.politics and stuff.
I think they are aware they have put on much better shows than they
did on the 5th. Hopefully this will stabilize before May of 2002.
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More feedback:

>>I think we went out of our way to assure new and uneasy people that they
>>would be among friends in a caring and supportive environment. I don't see
>>much more we can do on this.

>You can only invite and try to give warm fuzzy feelings. As with most
>things worth gaining in life, only the indiviual can take the first
>step. I think you did outstanding in getting the message out that it
>is okay to be who you are, and there are plenty of others eager to help
>someone who is nervous. Stay the course, Annie.

>>I heard one complaint about Goodtimes being too smoky. I was there 3
>>times this year and did not notice this myself.

>I do not smoke and am usually very sensitive when there is alot around.
>I was at Goodtimes three times and never had any sensation of being too
>smokey. (Don't think the wine caused any senses to be impaired either).

>>There was one major complaint, and several lesser comments, about some
>>dress and demeanor issues during the dinner at the Sahara buffet.

>I was not able to make the buffet (trying to get beautiful with Robyn at
>the time). However, I agree entirely with your views. But, I think
>that you had covered the appropriate dress very well in all your
>notices before DLV started.
...

>>My biggest concern is that of no-shows. It was highest (both in
>>number and in percentage) this year of all years. I can understand
[snip]

>>As I look over the photos and see all the smiling faces, and read over
[cut-paste]
>>I wonder if there's something we could be doing better.

>I think maybe some of you full timers forget the number of guts it
>takes to go out in public, especially a maddening crowd like you
>get in Vegas. My first time at our group meeting I was scared silly
>just to walk out into the main room, I know I could have never
>walked out into a busy casino in that state of mind.

>>I think we went out of our way to assure new and uneasy people that
>>they would be among friends in a caring and supportive environment. I
>>don't see much more we can do on this.

>Yes you do, but it's the whole thing that scares the hell out of them.
>Your not doing anything wrong. Keep up the good work! They will be
>back and out when they are ready for something like this.

>>We had a couple restroom incidents. One was early in the morning, and
>>the person who was confronted admitted she was not dressed appropriate

>Again, you full timers like Annie and Denise forget what it's like to
>learn how to use a Ladies Room. I think I was more scared doing that
>than I was going out in public at first. And I had to go real bad!
(editor's note: Annie is not full time)

>You might think of writing up a
>list of hints and etiquitte about going to
>the Ladies Room.

>>There was one major complaint, and several lesser comments, about some
>>dress and demeanor issues during the dinner at the Sahara buffet.

>I didn't see that. I was late, still getting ready and missed it, but
>I sure heard about it. You've got to realize that beginners take some
>time to learn what works for informal dinner, what works for a night
>on the town, what works for a bar, a show, you name it. GG's pick
>that up as they grow up. TG's have to learn it the hard way.

>I know your not the fashion police, but you could consider letting
>those who are not dressed properly know what they are doing, in a
>nice way, of course.

Oh wow {grabbing can of worms, walking toward can opener} I learned
years ago to bite my tongue when I'm tempted to (constructively)
criticize somebody else's style or dress. Even when I'm asked, I wanna
be *VERY* sure an honest opinion is really wanted. IMAO, many times
it is not.

I think most people do learn from trial-error and from verbal/nonverbal
feedback as to what works in various situations.
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>Annie, those pictures are great! Thanks for sharing them. I specially
>liked the air views and the golf, since I didn't go on either.

Yes, thanks to everybody who sent them in. There's more to go. I'm
only about 1/3 of the way thru scanning mine, and there are some coming
by snailmail RSN. Keep checking. I would estimate that in about a week
we'll have a reasonably complete set.
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