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Feedback, photos, etc.
Special thanks
Lost and found
E-mail directory
Lori writes
Feedback
A blow by blow from Gina's Eyes
Sahara comments
Cat's comments
Administrivia
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Feedback, photos, etc.:

For those who care <g> I arrived home safely a couple hours ago. The
flight was uneventful, except for getting selected for "wanding" and
a whole row of screaming rugr^H^H^H^Hchildren right behind me.

Feedback is coming in. Not everything that has come in so far is
included in this mailing, as I wanted to get this out more or less on
time. Everything will be published.

Thanks to those who have sent in photographs. Not all of them are up
yet, so if you don't see yours, it's just because I have not placed
them on line yet. There are more on the way in snailmail.

They may or may not have the same file name as what you sent. If the
normalizer detects any non-web-friendly names (such as names containing
spaces) it will rename all images in that directory.

There seems to be a bit of confusion about the veto process. Everybody
will have a reasonable number of no-questions-asked do-not-use requests
for any photos in which they appear. Vetoed photos will not be used on
the final web page.

If you want to veto any photos, send me the file name, the directory,
and which person in the picture you are. "Please don't use img0003.jpg
in the /dlv02s99 directory, I am the third from the right" leaves no
questions, but "Don't use that picture of me at the bar" (anybody's
ears burning? <vbfg>) does not work very well. :)

Don't worry, we will have a conspicuous final call for vetoes before the
DLV followup pages are made.

As for captioning, one person sent in an edited photo with a caption
superimposed. Anybody can certainly suggest captions for photos that
will appear on the final web page, but please wait until the final pages
are composed, plus I do not want to bastardize the original images, so
we want to keep captions as text items to accompany the images, and not
part of them.

I've had some very nice comments about the photos so far. The quantity
and quality has been super so far. Keep 'em coming, gang.

If anybody has photos of the Gipsy dance night, the SO's luncheon, the
GB makeup demo, the High Tea, or the Palace Station buffet, they would
be appreciated. Those are the only activities I haven't seen. (There may
be some that have come in that I have not seen yet.)

Thanks to everybody who took and sent in photos. We'll credit all the
photographers when the followup pages are composed.
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Special thanks:

I would like to specifically thank the following people, without whose
efforts DLV could not happen, or at least could not happen as such a
major success. (Geez I hope I'm not leaving anybody out.)

Leah, for coordinating the welcome dinner at Hamburger Mary's and the
Friday evening dinner at Sasha's.

LeeAnna and Cindy for planning and coordinating the Wednesday night
Slumber Party.

Denise (Densie) and Gina, for coordinating and piloting the air tours.

Mindy, for planning and coordinating the swimming party, the Boardwalk
reception, the golf outing, high tea, and the Sasha's floor show.

Monique, for managing the logistics and the $$$ for the LaFemme show,
for being our primary name taker, and for some behind-the-scenes
diplomatic work.

Aiko and Yvonne, for coordinating the limo tour. That has been one of
the high points for many of us, for the second year in a row!

Diane (Mindy's SO) for coordinating and hostessing the SO's luncheon.

Cat and Monique, for the Southern Belle Social.

There are two behind-the-scenes people who I would also like to
recognize, those being Tina and Michelle. Tina was one of our most
active planners, and did quite a bit of background work in addition to
proposing the Go Blonde Day.

Michelle was one who set the tone of DLV, calling the question of
vacation vs. convention and some related items early in the game, and
was the one who did the original DLV 2002 schedule. If you compare
Michelle's original draft and the final schedule, you will see many
similarities.

Let's hear a big round of applause (clap-clap-clap {whistle}) for those
who made DLV happen! This is one for the record books! :)

And, if I've missed anybody, please let me know and accept my apology.
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Lost and found:

Monique writes:

>I have one 'general' annoucement for the entire DLV'02 attendees.

>At Hamburger Mary's, a girl left a pair of prescription glasses, bronze
>wire rim, left lens is about 2X thicker than the right lens.

>Along with these glasses was a nice packaged box (with yellow ribbon)
>of Adrienne Vittadini perfume, perfume spray and body lotion. I tried
>to find the owner of the glasses and box post Hamburger Mary's while
>what little free time I had during the other DLV venues, without
>success. I brought both home with me. If any DLV attendee is missing
>these two items, please email me at Leggitv@aol.com to arrange
>returning these items to you.

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E-mail directory:

Again this year we will have a post-DLV e-mail directory for those who
wish to share their e-mail address with the others.

Again, to receive a copy of this directory, you must supply your name
and e-mail address to be included.

This is strictly voluntary.

To have your name and e-mail address included, please write a brief note
to: dlv@geekbabe.com, with the words "e-mail directory" in the subject,
which includes the following:

First name (last name optional) the way you want it to be listed.

e-mail address

Web site URL (optional).

There are a couple people who wrote in saying to pass their e-mail
address on. If you did this, please resend with the above information
and "e-mail directory" in the subject. Thanks.

We will be sending this out shortly, when the flow of inclusions appears
to drop off.
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Lori writes:

>First ! Let me thanks all of you for a wonderful and very fun event ! I
>know that this was a bunch of work tha ttook alot of preperation and
>time !

You are very welcome! Comments like this are truly appreciated.

>I had a BALL!

>A few comments about the Sahara.

>Whata dump ! The rooms were not really so bad, but the buffet really
>sucked big time. And most of all it was the type of person that hung
>out there (a bunch of lowlifes!) Really did not find the staff all that
>friendly either.

Contrast this with another Sahara comment below (or above, I dunno which
order the digestifier will grab them).

This is really the first negative thing I've heard about the Sahara. I
ate at the buffet several times (mostly breakfast) and did not have a
bad meal. I admit that if you're expecting the Bellagio buffet, the
Sahara buffet will disappoint you.

As far as the people, yes, we did have an influx of jock types over the
weekend, but really, we can't control, or even predict what the hotel's
other guests will be like. (If you think that was bad, try staying at
the Riviera during the rodeo finals week. :)

>Most memorable fun night! Saturday night downtown !! OMG ! What a fun
>night that was! And what a wonderful job they have done redoing
>downtown. I was totally impressed especailly with the lighted
>canopy!!!. We were very well accepted there almost as royalty!!!

>Harrah's Buffet: THE BEST !!!!!! Food was fresh, people were 100%
>friendly and the food was outstanding.Went out of our way to eat there
>twice!

>Club Ra at the Luxor.

>Very Cool ! Crowded ! But charged us only the cover charge that girls
>would be charged and gave us VIP treatment. (We didn't have to wait in
>the block long line !!)

>Everywhere we went, day or night we were treated very well by all of
>Las Vegas. Sure, there was the usual jerks, but that's everywhere.

>Suggestion: If only a central location for a hotel with a affordable
>price for all could be found. It would be so much easier to meet other
>Girls, to share rides if we were all in the same place. I would have
>loved to meet many other girls and form friendships but the distance
>apart was troublesome.

That's what we were doing with our three suggested hotels. We realize
that we're never gonna get everybody in the same place, but we have been
concentrating people in a few.

>The weather was just awsume !!! Never change the
>date !

It's established that both the location (Las Vegas) and the approximate
time of year (Spring, late April or May) are in stone.

>Thanks again for such a wonderful time and looking forward to seeing
>you all next year!

And we're looking forward to having you back again :)
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Feedback:

Various items, some signed, some not signed. I left any signatures in as
is instead of normalizing them as I usually do.

>Thank you!

>Had a GREAT time. Be happy that all your planning and efforts bore
>great results and lots and lots of fun for everyone. Look forward to
>next year.

>TTFN,

>Rosa Ada Delano
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>One major complaint! It was over much too fast! Had a great time,
>thanks.
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>Big thanks to you and all my new friends who worked so hard to set up a
>fabulous fun week. I'll be downloading my pictures in the next day or
>two so I can send them as soon as you let us know when and where.

>Thank you again, hugs,

>Sharon Anne
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>Thank You ANNIE!!!!!!!!!!

>We All Love You.......

>See you next year for sure...if not sooner...we love Las Vegas.

>Is there going to be a central location for all those great photo's?

Yes. Photos are placed in a staging area for all to see, comment upon,
and veto if necessary. Most of them will eventually end up on the DLV
2002 followup pages. Credit will be given to all who submit photos.

>Hugs,
>Dianna
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>Thanks for the good time!

>It was really nice to meet you.

>We had a great time.

>Huggs,

>April

>See you next year.
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>I wanted to "THANK YOU" again for all the time and effort's you put in
>to set up the DLV project. I had a fantastic time and have not
>attended a better event for CD's. I really appreciate your efforts
>and hope that this happen's again next year. I will definately be
>there.

>HUG'S!!!!!

>Marsha

>P.S. I loveeeeee the commerative slot token neckless prize I received
>in the golf draw, that you made. I received six comments on it when I
>went back to the hotel

I'm glad you enjoyed that, thanks. :)
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Here's one that comes in response to every DLV mailing that goes out ...

>Subject: Automated Reply from edinborough@www.highlandmoon.com>

>Thank you for your email and your interest.
>We will reply to you
>as soon as possible.

I'm still waiting. :)
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>Dear Annie, It was my pleasure to be part of your DLV ORG team this
>year! I had a great time while I was there.I'm glad we were able to
>try something new,and lay the ground work for future slumber party type
>events. :} BIG HUGS, Cindy in Tucson
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>A quick note to say thanks for getting DLV together and being so nice!
>Believe me when I say, it was the experience of a lifetime!
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>Hope everyone had fun today! Monique and I had a fast smooth flight into
>Nashville and I safely arrived home in East Tennessee before 8:00 p.m.
>EDT!

>Thanks again for everything!

>Ginger
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>Hi Annie! I had a wonderful time at DLV 2002. It was great meeting you
>and so many of my sisters (TS's) and half-sisters (CD's). I can't
>decide if my vote for Miss Congeneality should go to Tootsie or Cathy,
>so I nominate them both!
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>Answer me one question. HOW DID YOU PEOPLE EVER THINK UP SUCH A THING?
>That's the most fun I've had in YEARS! I never dreamed something like
>this would be possible!

It kinda happened and evolved over the past several years. The cast of
characters above (or below) are responsible for planning it, and
everybody who attended is responsible for making it happen.
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A blow by blow from Gina's Eyes:

>Apr 30 Tue 5:00pm Welcome Dinner
> 7:30pm Pre-DLV get-together

>Milano's - Wonderful little restaurant, I didn't eat that night because
>I wanted to mingle more than eat. The reception I received from
>everyone was nothing short of amazing. I love these people!

>Quick Stop at Sasha's after Milano's: Great place, should use more
>next year. Please support throughout the year to keep in business.

I don't think we have to worry about that place closing. From what they
tell me (the ubiquitous "they"), the place is well capitalized. They
just celebrated their second month and I can see they are turning a
profit already.

>May 01 Wed All day Blond Hair Day

>I looked really stupid in Blonde, but it was a fun theme

> 1:00pm Hidden Woman Open House

>Nice Place, I'll try to stop by there once in a while. good munchies.

> 2:00pm Wig styling

>The girls seemed to have a great time, needed more stations, mingleing
>was more fun

> 7:30pm Dinner and Welcome celebration

>Hamburger Mary's was great, seemed to have great service, good crowd,
>food didn't compare to Belagglio Buffet, (no problem).

> 10:00pm Karaoke

>Didn't make it, went to Dinner at Smith and Wollenski's instead. Great
>food, great service, no problems, no bathroom issues.

> 11:00pm Slumber Party (and swap meet)

>Cute premise, the girls seemed to be having a great time, I needed to
>leave early to sleep.

>May 02 Thu 8:00am Air tours

>Personally, I think they were my personal highlight of the trip, I just
>love giving them,

>when are you going Annie?

Uh, how do I put this ... uh, planes scare the $#!+ out of me! I do have
to fly regularly for business and pleasure, but I don't like it. Just one
of my quirks, I guess ... (I'm actually not afraid of flying, I'm afraid
of crashing. <semi grin>)

>I got a promise from Monique for next year.

I'm sure you and Monique will have a great time. :)

> 1:00pm Glamour Boutique Open House
> -or- Swimming party

>Missed both due to flying, (its okay trust me...)

7:00pm Boardwalk reception

>Okay, nothing spectacular, I understand there were some bathroom issues.
>For kind of a dive that is pretty silly.

I understand part of this was a misunderstanding or miscommunication to
the security staff.

> 8:30pm LaFemme (production show)

>Stupid show, bad seats, but hey, who was there for intellectual
>stimulation, you were expecting the opera maybe?

>Hanging out at MGM Grand was fun, the girls looked good and
>attracted a great deal of positive attention.

> After Limo tour

>ABSOLUTELY THE MOST FUN, GREAT DRIVERS, GOOD BOURBON, GOOD COMPANY, A
>LOT OF FUN. KUDOS TO AIKO.

> Bar at the Bellaggio,

>Amazing bartender, Charles, had a blast messing with the white beard.
>No problem with restroom usage at Bellaggio. (Get smarter girls, get
>in, do your business and get out, not a good hang out.)

>May 03 Fri 10:00am Golf (See notes about golf mailing list)

>Golf - interferes with good flying (actually sleeping off the night
>before)

> 1:00pm SBS Social

>Sparsely attended, but that made it very intimate, great people.

> 5:30pm Dinner, with entertainment

>Sasha's was great, I really liked this place, not smoky, entertainment,
>well he was fun. Both Sasha and the other waitress/barkeep(real girl)
>was great.

>The bartenders need shirts, yuk...

I agree that is tacky, but ... They did have one bartender there last
night who was wearing a shirt. I think that non-costume is optional.

> 7:30pm Annual Mixer

>Good Times, needs a air filtration system bad. Other than that ok
>place, lots of fun, awesome group.

> 11:30pm Dance Night

>Gipsie's was great until about midnight and it got packed. Smoke level
>was horrible, music too loud, but we showed them that the big girls can
>party.

>Las Vegas Lounge, just stopped by to say goodbye, I was leaving in the
>morning. Smokey too.

>May 04 Sat Morning - Left sniff-sniff....

>Okay here is the Gina Rant.... Once only.

>I really wish all of these wonderful people I know and love would wake
>up and realize just how horrible smoking is for you. I personally have
>a real problem with it, both first and second hand. This is the only
>group I will even spend anytime with when there is smoking going on, I
>hate it so much.

>I love you people so completely it just tears me apart to watch you
>kill yourself slowly. Please take better care of yourself and maybe
>next year we can have just one event at a place that isn't so smokey.
>Then I wouldn't have to wash my wig everynight, actually the slumber
>party was that way, unfortuneately I couldn't stay. Maybe that is why
>I liked the Limo Tour so much...

>Love you all and I can't wait for next year.

>Gina
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Sahara comments:

>First, thanks for everything! I haven't had so much fun since I was a
>kid! The limo party ranks up there with the funnest things in my life!

I agree that the limo tour was again one of the DLV high points. :)

>I can't believe how we were treated at the Sahara. Parkers opened the
>door and Welcome, Maam, and the royal treatment all the place. Food was
>good to. Waiter started calling me by my girlname after a few meals
>there. Buffet food was good, but was a mad-house and I always thought I
>was being looked at, but I got used to it. Check in was fast, and they
>gave me a non-smoking room with a good view, like I requested.

>Coctail waitress served me just like all the others. Good service and a
>great time.

Contrast this with some other Sahara comments above or below. I personally
have very few complaints about the Sahara, but I will say that if you are
expecting a fancy-schmancy place like the Bellagio or Four Seasons, you
will be disappointed.

>As I said, if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.

If you're serious about helping out with DLV, there will be a call for
volunteers in the next month or so. Answer the call. :)
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Cat's comments:

>DLV 2002..WOW!..This being my second one, I looked forward to getting
>to Las Vegas with great anticipation. I had such a good time in 2001,
>I wondered if this year would be as good. It was better! Although
>the experiences were much different, I will probably remember it more
>than last year. I received so much personal pleasure. I will
>remember names and faces much better than last year, and hope to be
>able to keep in touch with several new friends.

>Although there were some who were venturing forth for the first time in
>a major public setting, what made a big impression on me was the
>diversity of those in attendance. It was so impressive to see those
>who live full time or nearly full time enjoying the company of
>crossdressers and their significant others. And, what a great sight
>late one night at an infamous lounge to observe many DLVers mingling
>with local TGirls and patrons and discussing what is needed for the
>Transgendered community. What a great statement for our community
>and for DLV in particular that so many different from each other chose
>to attend, and had a genuine concern that others enjoyed themselves!

>Another vivid image in my mind is the growth I could see in many who
>were "first timers" last year. I know that had their experience not
>been what Annie and others have as their goal, these wonderful people
>not only would not have grown, they would not have returned and
>brought others to DLV.

>The schedule of activities this year truly amazed me. If one could not
>find something interesting to do, they must have never left their room.

>What a pleasure to see so many at Milano's for the pre-dinner! And
>then to get my order without having to order was unbelievable.
>Whoever found Flex, thank you so much. That was a fun place with just
>the right noise level to be able to meet and mingle. I will be
>visiting there whenever I am in LV.

>Hamburger Mary's had the biggest burgers I have seen in a long time
>and although more light would have been nice, it was pleasant.

I was told they tried to correct the lighting situation in the one
middle section, but had difficulty doing so. Dunno if there were actual
electrical problems, or the staff did not know how to adjust the lights.

>I am
>sure next time they will believe Leah when she warns them how many are
>coming.

>Goodtimes, well it is Goodtimes! The name is certainly fitting. And
>to think, we never knew Monique could sing as well as talk! For those
>who did not attend the pool party - you missed a great time. Thanks
>so much to Mindy for being a gracious hostess and cook. And girls, we
>do look good in swimsuits. Hidden Woman and Glamour Boutique seemed
>to make big points for those who were able to get to the activities
>there.

The two shows were entertaining, yet somewhat disappointing to me.

>But, I did find out what Barcardi Orange was at LeFemme, so it gets
>the highest rating from me. I got some dancing in at Gypsy's on an
>off night, but cannot stand the smoke and noise level for long.

>Does that mean I am maturing? OMG! I will remember the time spent at
>ICON Saturday night and the conversations. And then what a great way
>to end my time in Vegas - walking back to Sasha's and getting
>propositioned in the parking lot - and turning him down! The
>highlights of activities for me though was at Sasha's and the golf
>outing. It is so wonderful to see a classy TG place in Vegas.
>Michael Cagle on Friday, and the show on Saturday were great. The
>food was very good and worth the price. I hope the place is
>successful and will make it a point to recommend it to others.

>The golf outing was sooo much fun! My partner Fannie claims she
>played the best she ever has, but I know she was sandbagging. Thank
>you sister for making the day so pleasant. The other twosome in the
>group was Tootsie and Mardi. I will not forget some of the shots that
>we were so fortunate to witness.

>Thank you both for keeping the spirit of DLV while playing at a game
>you both have so much passion for. To all the other ladies who helped
>make the day so great, thanks and keep them long and straight.

>With so much to do this year, I wondered whether I would have time to
>make some lasting friendships. But, of course, that is what Diva Las
>Vegas does promote so well. I not only renewed some friendships from
>the past, but also came away with strong bonds to several sisters I met
>for the first time. Some of my close sisters were in attendance and
>that made for a lot of fun. And, my best friend was there for most of
>the time and that helped to make it special.

>While I will certainly cherish the time spent at DLV 2002, it could not
>have happened had it not been for the group who worked so hard to make
>activities happen. From the Las Vegas locals who made so many
>contacts, set up activities and shuttled attendees at all hours of the
>day and night, to those who live elsewhere who arranged shows, limos,
>airplanes, boats, meals and transportation, and to Annie - you are all
>heroes of mine! Thank you so very much! I hope to see you next year.

And we look forward to having you with us again next year, thanks for
the writeup.
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