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Participation survey
Announcements
Annie's summary
More feedback
Jena writes
Kate writes
Photo session
Rosa writes
Administrivia
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Participation survey:

We're asking everybody who attended DLV 2002 to take a few minutes and
complete the participation survey on the web.

This is at the URL:

http://www.geekbabe.com/dlv/dlv2002/dlv2002survey.html

This will provide us with some valuable information for summarizing this
year's event and planning for those in the future.

Thanks in advance to everybody who takes this. Reports of the results
will be announced here.
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Announcements:

Correspondence ... As of now I finally appear to be caught up with DLV
e-mail and stuff. If you've sent in anything to the list and have not
either received a response or seen it posted, please send in a reminder.
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E-mail directory ... The DLV 2002 e-mail directory has been sent out to
all whose names appear in it. If you sent in a note to be included and
have not receieved this, please write to dlv@geekbabe.com and explain.

Yes, there was one major typo ...

+This is the Diva Las Vegas 2002 e-mail directory. It is current as of
+May 26, 2002. Copyright 2002 Diva Las Vegas. Please use this for your

I dunno where that date came from. :)

For those who want a copy of this, you do have to be listed. If you're
shy about giving out your real e-mail address, just get one of those
free Hotmail (or whatever) accounts and submit that.

We'll send out an updated edition in a few weeks. If you want to be
listed, or if you need to send in a correction, let us know (just reply
to this mailing and say you want to be on the DLV 2002 e-mail list).
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Photo stuff ... All photos received by Wednesday morning have been
posted. Deadline for vetos (vetoes?) on all that have been posted in the
staging area is this coming Saturday evening.

Also, we would be interested in hearing from all of you as to any of the
photos you particularly like. Please write in (dlv@geekbabe.com) and
nominate any you think are particularly good, and we'll be sure to use
those on the DLV 2002 followup pages and/or the updated "expect" page.
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T-shirts ... There were a few DLV 2001 t-shirts that were not picked
up over DLV. If you requested one and did not pick it up, write to me
(annie@annie.net) and I'll make arrangements to get it to you.
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Annie's summary:

Here's my blow-by-blow summary of DLV 2002:

I guess you could say DLV started for me on Saturday, when Densie paged
me to ask where I was. I was still at home. :)

I arrived Sunday the 28th. early evening. Flight took off on time, but
arrived late due to a strong headwind. Anyway, I picked up the van, and
checked into the Sahara. Even though I paid the lower rate, they put me
in the Tangiers tower, which is what they usually give to those paying
the higher rate. I was in room 18-something, facing north with actually
a nice view.

Picked up Densie and Tony and we went off to the San Remo to play a bit
and see the Showgirls Of Magic show. "Tiny Bubbles", one of the
performers in the show, had invited us to see it, and to my surprise
when I picked up my ticket, Tiny had a large box of Peeps waiting for me
at the box office. :) We met Tina and Michelle (NZ) before the show, and
Monique came in just as the show was starting. (Hmmmm, am I forgetting
somebody here, I thought we had one more person there ...) Anyway, SOM
is a very low-key but very entertaining show. It's not all magic, and I
laughed so hard I hurt at times. Definitely recommended. :) We had a
few drinks at the San Remo and then early breakfast at the Sahara.

On Monday morning I picked up Ginger at the airport, which was
uneventful except for the fact that I got majorly yelled at by a cop
who was out there directing traffic and pedestrians. We had just picked
up Ginger's bags and were walking across the drive to the short term
metered parking, when I thought he was motioning to the traffic to stop,
but he was actually telling the traffic to proceed. I kinda walked out
right in front of a van that was just taking off. I think his words were
something like "HEY LADY, YA WANNA GET YOURSELF KILLED OR SOMETHING!!!"
At least he did not use the s-word. :) I was embarrassed.

On Monday evening Densie and Tina wanted to do Karaoke at Flex, and I
and several others showed up there as well. I guess you could say that
DLV actually started then, since we had more DLV people there than we
had total in 1997. :)

Tuesday was really when DLV officially started.

Milano's dinner: In 2000 we filled the place. In 2001 we overwhelmed
them. In 2002 we totally blew them away! Overload! Great food, as usual.

This one does mark DLV's first Rubber Chicken Banquet<tm>. :)

I about $#!+ when I found out how much they paid to bribe the waiter
to serve me that thing. :)

Seriously, as good as the food is, I think we've outgrown Milano's as a
group dining place. We'll probably use it as a recommended place for
people who want to grab something good and reasonable to eat.

Pre-DLV, Flex: Nice place. Largest crowd ever for a Pre-DLV thing. I
tipped the bartender and told him to not serve me anything that had
Galiano in it. Actually, I was drinking beer that evening, and it's
kinda hard to disguise Galiano in that. :)

I was loaded with Peeps (Densie and Tony gave me a couple boxes as well)
so I passed them out at Flex that night. Yeah, people thought I had
totally lost it.

This DLV sure didn't have a slow start like the first ones did, people
were there and ready to go at the first activities, even before them.

Hidden Woman Open House: I was a bit concerned that their staff might
not be able to handle the wig styling thing, the crowd, and the usual
business, but they did it quite well. Got made-over as a blonde, and
some people did not recognize me. :) I did feel the effect immediately.
I had to ask directions out of the parking lot.

Hamburger Mary's: Good food and service. Light was inadequate in our
area. They tried to get more light, but for some reason could not. Crowd
wandered to Goodtimes before any socializing happened. I was a total
ditz, as a few of the people working there will attest to. :) I passed
out Peeps again. The DLV group would definitely not make it at the
Annual Peep-Off! :)

Goodtimes Karaoke: Saw only bits of this, since I was drafted as shuttle
driver, but I did see Densie do Sweet T. (At night I'm a WHAT? What kind
of a mechanic?)

Slumber party: Came very late, was very tired when I got there. I though
it would be cute to have Tony crash the thing in boymode, but when he
entered screaming "Panty raid" people just looked around with that "what
the f*ck" look. Oh well ...

Glamour Boutique Open House: Good crowd. Standing room only! They
reported they did a very good business that afternoon.

Swim party: Dropped in briefly. I wondered why nobody was swimming, but
I guess it was COLD! They offered me food, but I was still STUFFED from
the buffet a couple hours before.

Boardwalk reception: Got there, had a drink, wandered into the gift
shop, watched the show for a few minutes, and then it was time to go to
LaFemme.

LaFemme: Great show, pure class! My seat was off-center, but still a
good view. Show was more artsy and not as bawdy as I had expected. I
know some people did not like this, but I found it entertaining and
enjoyable. I laughed very hard at "Micro Jackson." :) They had said that
they enforced a dress code of "business dress at minimum", but some of
the latecomers seated to our left were very casual. They looked like
they were setting up for N+I (Nortel shirts and such).

Limo tour: Again, I think this was my favorite activity of DLV! I
thought it was a major trip driving 5 limos into the Delmar. :) Of all
the feedback of this year, this seems to be the biggest hit of all
activities. I can't believe we were asked to leave the Delmar. :)
Looks like Slim and None were both with us, Michelle. :)

SBS Social: Small crowd but still a good time. I was still very tired
from the night before. Yes, it was starting to catch up with me.

Sasha's dinner: We didn't totally bury the place, but ... Good food and
great entertainment. Michael Cagle put on a very good show for the
group. Billie Lee passed the hat for Michael, and I think he appreciated
it. :)

Annual Mixer: Good crowd. High level of enthuiasm. Even though this is
very simple, I think this is one of our more important activities, as it
is usually the single largest gathering of our people, and really allows
a great number of us to get acquainted and to get to know each other
better. I know everybody always grumbles and complains about being
forced to pose for those group photos, but logs show that those are the
most downloaded of all of our photos over the past few years. Again I
passed out Peeps, with the resulting strange looks.

Some net.friends dropped by, so I left before it broke up, picked up a
couple others, and had early breakfast at the Sahara.

Mall Crawl: Several small groups. No incidents reported. I just bought
a few odds and ends and ran into a cow-orker. :) One of the groups was
pushing a baby carriage, but I think they were using it as a shopping
cart. :) I didn't see anybody getting any strange looks. :)

Saturday afternoon I had a makeover by Steph at Glamour Boutique. She
asked me if she if she could try a few things different, and she ended
up doing me as a blonde, again. I actually liked that look, but it's
gonna be almost impossible for me to duplicate it myself. Again, several
people did not recognize me at all, and I got many compliments.

La Cage: I drove a whole vanload to the show, and the front valet park
was full. Fortunately I was able to talk the valet into parking it
anyway. :) I guess he could not resist a blonde sweet-talking to him, or
maybe it was the help that Mr. Lincoln gave me. :) :)

I think this is the fifth time I have seen this show with the DLV group,
but it had changed enough so it was fresh and interesting. Again, thanks
for the cooperation in posing for the group photos, and thanks to
Monique for arranging that.

Sasha's afterwards: Parking was IMPOSSIBLE! We parked about 4 blocks
away. Good thing I had a pair of flats in a bag in the van. :) Sasha's
was mobbed! Tina, I, and some others went over to Milano's to eat when
it was obvious that dinner service at Sasha's would be mega-slow.

Valley of Fire: Awesome scenery and good company. We did have a good
crowd for this. Several excellent and unusual (for our community) photo
ops. One of our people desparately needed a 7-11 in the desert.

Palace Station buffet dinner: Went directly there from VOF. Picked up
a couple others waiting there, but we found out that there was another
table of people who were seated before us. I think we were fashionably
late. :)

Farewell get-together: Again, quite a few people stuck around for this.
Flex is a very nice place for things like this. I understand that they
now serve food there, but I did not have any. I forgot the Peeps.

On Monday after DLV we found several people made it up to Flex for
Karaoke. Densie did Sweet T. again. :) I crashed early.

On Wednesday after DLV I attended the Club Girl Talk (Girltalk Magazine)
thing at Sasha's. Both Michelles were there, and a couple others I have
not met before. It seems to me that Sasha's is kind of a replacement for
what Keys was, and I'm sure it will be a favorite of our people. Parking
is a major hassle, but the doorman was telling me that they were making
arrangements with one of the nearby rent-a-car lots to use it for valet
parking, which should ease the situation quite a bit. Anyway, this is
apparently gonna be an ongoing get-together thing every Wednesday at
Sasha's, so if anybody's in town on Wednesday, drop by Sasha's at 7:30
or so.

Friday was the Pride Parade. I went downtown in the middle of the
afternoon, visited Neonopolis (not much really there yet) and played at
bit at a few of the casinos. Michael, Jason, and a few others did a
pre-parade show on the Fremont Street Experience, which was great except
the CD of Michael's accompanyment for one number malfunctioned so there
was an unannounced break.

I had a very good vantage point for the parade, up in the parking
structure opposite Fitzgerald's. I took quite a few pictures, but I was
a bit disappointed by the way they came out. The flash on That Damn
Camera<tm> doesn't really carry that far. Maybe I should try some faster
film for that type of thing.

After the parade I went over to Sasha's to eat and have a few drinks. It
was MOBBED and parking was again impossible. I didn't stay that late,
cuz I had to get up early and shoehorn everything back into the 4 bags I
came with.
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More feedback:

>>Diva Las Vegas, was my fourth *event*. It was by far the best. I think
>>the concept is superior to staying at a central hotel with all or
>>almost all activities confined there. The diversity of the activities
>>and the closer ties to mainstream is very attractive to me.

>Diva is my second event. I was a little sceptical at first, I thougt
>you were being cheap by not renting a hotel, but now I see how it worked
>out so well. Kudo's to you and all your friends for thinking up an
>absolutely wonderful event.

You're very welcome. Yes, it's quite different from the vast majority
of the t* events out there.

>Only thing I could suggest is make it longer by another day. It's a
>absolutely a bummer driving back on Monday! You can sign me up for
>Diva 2003 right away if you want, and if you need any help with
>anything, just let me know.

We hope to have some preliminary info on DLV 2003 out by the middle of
the summer or so. If you (or anybody) are serious about volunteering to
help with DLV 2003, we'll have a call for volunteers in the next few
weeks.
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Jena writes:

>The following is just my ramblings about DLV2002

>I first meet Annie when she picked me up at the Sahara to go to
>Milano's on Tuesday night. She immediately endeared herself to me when
>she said "I saw you standing over there but I was not sure you were
>with us as you were just blending in with the other guests" Of course
>it helped that the Ukrainian woman's weightlifting team was getting off
>their bus at the same time! <grin>

>The food at Milano's was great, since I went with Annie we arrived
>early and the DLV people kept coming and coming until we took over the
>whole place, and they still kept showing up. Tables were shifted and
>shifted again, and again. I was sitting there overwhelmed by the other
>girls and how great they looked and how well they just fitted into the
>setting.

>Then Lea (no H) sat down next to me, she is tall, thin, great hair and
>she totally intimidated me, I could not even bring myself to talk to
>her. She is a TS from Calif that just went full time. She asks me
>about the food, I recommend the lasagna, and 20 minutes of silence goes
>by, Then, oh horrors, I look out the window and Annie is leaving to go
>to Flex and I am trapped in the corner. I am about to have a stroke,

Uh-oh, sorry 'bout that. {blush} I swear I announced at Milano's and
Sasha's next door (some of the people wandered over there for a drink,
since Milano's does not have a liquor license) that the boat was
leaving.

>Here I am dressed, in a strange town, at a restaurant I know not where,
>my hotel is somewhere I don't know, I have no idea where Flex is, and I
>have no transportation!

>Just before I lose consciousness, I manage to croak "oh, crap my ride
>just left", Lea turns to me, smiles, and says "Don't worry I have a car
>and I will give you a ride"

Actually, I left you there intentionally, I wanted to give you the chance
to get to know somebody better. Yeah, that's the ticket ... <vbfg> :)

>We start to talk, and over the next number of days we keep talking and
>talking, and finding out the number of things we have in common and as
>Lea said "we were destine to meet"

>Flex was fun, noisy, smoky, but fun. The drag show started too late
>for me to enjoy it fully as my body was still on east coast time. I was
>talking to one of the performers before the show and it turn out s/he
>comes from the next town over to where I live, before s/he moved to Las
>Vegas.

>The next night was Hamburger Mary's and it dawned on me too late that I
>had not arranged for a ride. I went down to the hotel entrance to see
>if anybody was there and no such luck, so I sucked it up, went to the
>cab station, and took a cab to the restaurant. What a change just from
>the previous night! I had never gone to any gender event before that
>was not held in a "controlled environment" and here I was taking a cab
>from my hotel to a public restaurant by myself!

>The hamburgers were good, but they were just not prepared for 50+
>people to show up a once, and it was as dark as a tomb.

>Goodtimes the karaoke bar was interesting, I had never been to one
>before and I was just standing there gawking like a tourist from Iowa
>for the first time in the big city!

>Now Thursday morning was really weird, I have always wanted to have my
>ears pierced, but never had the courage before to do it. Before I left
>work to come to DLV I had laid the groundwork for a cover story to get
>it done in Las Vegas. But, I could not find a place on the strip to get
>it done and I was backing out. I mentioned it to Lea and she says "let
>go do it".

>So we drive to a mall in Henderson where there was a Piercing Pagoda,
>of course they are right in the middle of the mall, right there in the
>open. So there I am hugging the Teddy Bear they give you to hold, snap,
>snap and the deed is done, I have pierced ears! I'll just say they were
>stunned at work!

>The Boardwalk reception was kind of a non event and slow to get going.
>Ginger and I walked across the casino floor to get players cards for
>which we had to show our drivers licenses. That was fun, NOT, but the
>staff at the player's club desk didn't even blink. So there I am
>playing the slots in the middle of the casino, dress for the La Femme
>show, and nobody is paying me any mind. Since I had the player's card I
>went back the next day to play the slots, won 2 fifty dollar jackpots
>within 15 minutes, and of course generously donated it back to the
>casino over the next hour.

>I liked that hotel as it is a Holiday Inn at the middle of the strip,
>has good access in and out. It would be a good hotel for DLV2003 if
>they come up with a good room rate. Lea was staying there and she had
>no problems and liked it.

It's my understanding that the contract with Holiday Inn (who only
managed the hotel portion) ran out early this year and the Boardwalk
people now run it themselves. That's what they tell me (the ubiquitous
"they") anyway.

>La Femme was an interesting show, weird but interesting. Strange stage,
>I think if we were up closer it might have been more involving but it
>was like watching a television from 20 feet away. The stage was wide
>but only as tall as the performers. After the show Lea and I had dinner
>at P F Chang's china bistro.

>Friday Lea had to leave and I was so depressed I could not get out of
>boymode all day, did not go to any events. Understand I missed a great
>time at Sashas.

>Sat I went to the mall crawl, great outlet mall, lots of woman's
>stores, so guess what was the only thing I bought, a boy shirt! Hey,
>Hawaiian shirts are hard to come by in Boston !

>LaCage was a great show especially as someone said to see it enfemme. I
>went in Annie's car and on the way back she dropped me at the Sahara,
>but not at the side entrance but the front casino entrance. This being
>the weekend the Sahara was very crowded especially with yahoos, I was
>considering a dash thru the bushes to the back, but somehow in my
>really dressy clothes it just didn't seem ladylike. <grin> So I held
>up my chins and made the half mile walk thru the casino, and the hotel
>lobby like a proper lady. Again no lynch mob formed around me and all
>was well with the world.

>Sunday I went to the Valley of Fire trip, quite a sight, well worth
>the trip. Then we all went to the Palace station for the brunch. There
>I was Miss Casual wandering around the buffet with Mr and Mrs Middle
>America. Not too many showed up, but those of us who went enjoyed it.
>We especially enjoyed terrorizing the ice cream guy.

Sahara:

>Hotel was ok, only had the breakfast buffet and it was adequate, the
>Nascar theme seems to attract a yahoo crowd, especially on the weekend.

>The timesharing hucksters were annoying.

Those people are soooooo obnoxious! Whenever I walked by there alone
they avoided me like the plague, but it seems like whenever I went by
there with somebody in boymode they zoomed right in. I'm actually
thinking of printing t-shirts with "No, I am not interested in a
timeshare" on them. :)

>The only real problem for me, as I didn't have a car, was that the
>hotel was at the end of the strip, not much near it, and a ten dollar
>cab ride down the strip to anywhere else. I would vote for a midstrip
>central host hotel for 2003, a single very small meeting place for
>people to post notes, look for others to go places, but not a closet,
>and no rubber chicken dinner! DLV must match to the beat of a different
>drummer and not be a cloistered gender event!

>I have lots more stories but this is already getting too long!

>To say it was a great trip is not to do it justice, it was a life
>changing experience. I met so many wonderful people, too many to
>mention here, and I am so bad with names. I owe Lea a lot for
>befriending me during the event, and giving me the courage to grow.
>Annie, Cat, Monique, and the other organizers deserve a Noble prize;
>you have not been to a gender event till you have been to Diva Las
>Vegas.

Thank you. It's feedback like this that lets us know we're doing
something right. Yes, it's a great group of people.

>I was so depressed when I returned from DLV2002, not that I didn't have
>a great time, but that is would be a whole year before DLV2003. A whole
>year of getting weekly/monthly bulletins about 2003 and knowing how far
>off it was. I joined the 2002 hunt in January and at that time it
>seemed that the end of April would never come and now I am facing a
>whole year before DLV2003. Sigh!

DLV 2003 is almost a year off, but don't forget to (sha-la-lala) live
for today. You don't have to wait until DLV (or another T* event) to
be yourself. There's plenty you can do in your local community.

If you do want another vacation-not-convention gathering <shamelessplug>
there's Pinkfest in October. </shamelessplug>

>See you at DLV2003!

If not before. :)
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Kate writes:

>I put on a dress for the first time last September, so I will be
>considered a relatively new girl I think. (Just a little background so
>you can see where I'm coming from).

>Around that time I came across the DLV pages on the net and was
>intrigued with the idea, although my thoughts at that time were "What
>a neat idea compared to the other Conventions" But I'll never have the
>courage to do that! Even in my favourite town in the world.

>Since then I have made girlfriends over the net who gave support and I
>have re-read the DLV web site more than a few times and to be honest it
>seemed too good to be true. eg:- How nice and accepting that you all
>were of new girls etc'.

>Well I was nervous walking into Flex on the first night not knowing
>what to expect and not knowing anyone except Rhianna who I had only met
>via e-mail, (thanks to the Big Sis program) I decided not to use a Big
>Sister and do it on my own even though she was more than willing to
>come clear across town to help me in my hour of need.

>On my arrival at Flex I felt like one of the crowd almost imediately,
>all my fears were gone and I hadn't even realised what a great time I
>was having until the night was nearly over which says a huge amount
>about the friendliness of the sorority of the terrific girls there at
>the time. I won't ramble on anymore just to say thank's Rhianna,
>Monique, Cat, Kelly and all those I met on my first night out as Katie
>in Vegas you gave me some terrific memories. And a special thank's to
>Annie for coordinating such a terrific---"Bash extrordinaire"!

>I wanted to do something like this before I got too old to enjoy it and
>would never have had the courage to get through a Casino and do the
>elevator trip without the encouragement of the ladies of DLV and the
>motivation I got from simply reading the web site. I am only sorry I
>couldn't attend more of the events this year but I will be there for
>sure next year and be more active next time. I promise!

>Thank's again for a really nice experience.

You're very welcome, Kate, and thanks for sharing that with us. Glad
you could make it and that you had the positive experience you did.
Hope to see you back in 2003. :)
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Photo session:

>>>I'll be honest here and I owe you an apology. I was kind of
>>>pissy when you hearded us all to have our picture taken right after

>>Oh, and I (Annie) was not the one doing the herding on Saturday after
>>the show. I was kinda incognito that evening. :) :) :)

>That wasn't you?

Nope, it was Monique.

>I know I called you Annie and you answered. I thought I did, or I
>called somebody else Annie and they answered. Are you sure it wasn't
>you standing out there.

Very sure. I did not look at all like I usually do that evening. I was a
good little girl and went directly to the photo area and posed.

>So, whoever it was I'm sorry I yelled at you, and sorry I called you
>Annie, then. I had to use a restroom real bad and I needed a smoke real
>bad and I wasn't used to crowds and things, but I found a restroom up
>there that wasn't busy, so I ended up ok.

I'm sure Monique will accept your apology. :)
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Rosa writes:

>As a virgin DLVer I want to say again, thanks to all the DLV organizers
>for planning and arranging such a diverse event. It went beyond what I
>was expecting.

>My sister-in-law Bobbi and I had the greatest time meeting you and the
>other girls. We hope to see you all again in '03.

>Thisa is for Big Sister Mindy: You were absolutely great! Couldn't have
>asked for a nicer and friendlier "big sister". Your guidance and
>support were incredible. Thanks for the memories. I wish your wife
>Dianne a speedy recovery from her surgery. She was a terrific hostess,
>as were you, darling!

Thanks, Rosa. Glad you had a great time. Looking forward to seeing you
back in '03. :)
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