Dressing issue continued

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This posting is from: Jane
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I got long winded on my last post and I will now finish up.

I also remember how long it took me to walk down Fremont St. I got
stopped by many people who wanted to talk and take my picture with them.
I very clearly remember two Canadian guys talking to me and telling me
how they admired my courage and how I had to have balls to do a thing
like this.

I also got a few disapproving looks from people also. To be truthfull, I
didn't really give a f--king damn. I also remember one of our people
telling me how happy she was that I wore my ball gown, because it took a
lot of public pressure off the others who were on the limo tour. So far
the only negative comments I have received has been from a person on
this discussion forum. I wish to thank Bev and others who defended me on
this issue. I also figure this, we are on this earth for a certain
number of days untill our maker calls us home. While I am here I am sure
as hell going to enjoy at least a few of those days while I can. !

As for the people who wants to condem me for my choice of dress, I will
say this, untill you are willing to pay my bills and taxes, I don't
really give a flying f--k what you think. My other question to you is,
why don't you get off your dead ass and volenteer to do a few activities
yourself? By the way this was my first time at DLV Las Vegas. My motto
is "To always dress with class, it is the most fun you can have with
your clothes on." If I come across as being too strongly negative to
anyone I will say I am sorry before hand. This is the first time in my
life I have created such as firestorm unintenionly.

Jane

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This posting is from: Sara P.
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Jane, I have been looking forward to when "the famous ball gown wearer"
would reply. I'm glad you did.

For the record, I have yet to reply throughout this little firestorm, so
to speak. I may be so bold as to say a couple things that may or may not
be in line with DLV central. If I say anything that runs contrary to the
"rules", please feel free to let me know.

First of all, I was a big supporter of keeping the final event at Bahama
Breeze and I would endorse the venue 1000% for next year as well. Why?
It's a perfect room with good food, better drink and outstanding
service. The room has charm, even without all of us gracing it's
presence, and I can't think of a more suitable place for all of us to be
able to show off our finest.

That is, within the bounds of taste, of course. The room is probably
best described as semi-private, attached to a family restaurant where
the muggles abound. Yes, we must keep it tasteful. But what's
distasteful about a formal gown? Even a ball gown? Absolutely
nothing.

Jane, did your choice of what to wear impact my enjoyment of the event?
Not in the least bit. Heck, I remember what you were wearing over and
above what nearly everyone else in the room was wearing, aside from
those at my table. For that, congratulations, you achieved every woman's
dream. All kidding aside, for the event, you made a heck of a splash.
Now if I were personally inclined to wear such a gown to the final
event, would I have done so at some of the other venues? Probably not. I
do believe we must consider time, place and of course weather in making
such choices. But for BB, for the reasons I stated above, you made quite
a statement and for that, congratulations!!!

Sara

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This posting is from: Sindee Honey
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<Rubbing temples>

If this topic were a person for 50 bucks I could make it "go away"

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This posting is from: Jane
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Thank you all for the kind comments. I wore this gown because it was to
be the last nite of us all being together in Las Vegas. I did look at
what the dress code called out, it said nice causal to dressy. It did
not specify how dressy I could go or not go. Anyway I didn't mind being
the center of attraction, you might say it was a way I could shine for
once in my life. I spent a very troublesome winter fighting with my
wife. She wanted a divorce and we were haggling over many issues. I just
retired last Jan, it seemed she wanted to take my whole pension and
leave me with nothing. On top of this I learn just before going to DLV
that my mom had to go to a nursing home because her health had gotten
bad. I did not mentioned this to anyone there of the troubles I was
having. Because of my mom I almost didn't go to DLV, I just managed to
get things somewhat taken care of before leaving. I just wanted to plain
forget my troubles for a while. Right now I feel like crying when I
think about it. I lost my wife and it looks like I will be loseing my
mom soon. I had some people suggest to me to wear an even better dress
than the one I wore, but to be truthfull, it would be a tough act to
top. All I wanted to do was to have a good time, it was not my intention
to make anyone feel out of place or be uncomfortable. I did forget my
troubles for a while. I also wish to say thank you to the delightfull GG
woman who sat down to talk with me. She really made my nite. I won't
mention her name for I fear someone might cause her problems. Again
thank you all.

Jane

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This posting is from: Mindy
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> Jane, did your choice of what to wear impact my enjoyment of the event?
> Not in the least bit. Heck, I remember what you were wearing over and
> above what nearly everyone else in the room was wearing, aside from
> those at my table. For that, congratulations, you achieved every woman's
> dream. All kidding aside, for the event, you made a heck of a splash.
> Now if I were personally inclined to wear such a gown to the final
> event, would I have done so at some of the other venues? Probably not. I
> do believe we must consider time, place and of course weather in making
> such choices. But for BB, for the reasons I stated above, you made quite
> a statement and for that, congratulations!!!

DITTO

Mindy

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This posting is from: Cynthia Phillips
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Jane, Jane, Jane,

I can't believe you may not be able to attend DIVA again next year; this
nearly breaks my heart! I was absolutely thrilled to make your
acquaintance at the Saturday Los Palmas opener and to see you again at
church the following Sunday, I'll never forget how you looked. and then
to stand with you in the group photo on Monday, even though I looked so
trashy; you're the diva of all divas and I do so wish and hope you will
be back again next year so you and I can walk arm and arm down the strip
in the broadest of daylight with the whole DIVA entourage of us in tow,
so all of Las Vegas can look at and admire us. Next year I will be
dressing to kill, and I don't give a damn about age appropriate either.

You must realize, all this silly forum banter is just us in the off
season, being bored, with nothing to do, and dreaming of next April,
when we can all sprout our spring petals and feathers once again and
strut around as the beautiful birds we are. Of course we spit and pee
and moan and cat fight over any issue at all; anything to keep from
clawing our eyes out and screaming with fury from our own desperation,
lonliness and bordom. Can you not see that ? We are all guilty of
that, every one of us. Do return sweet Jane, be here next year; grace
us with your presence once again, and leave the old lady at home. Don't
make me have to come to Iowa and drag you back here by the hair, you
just plan on being here with all the rest of us miserable bitches so we
can do this thing up right. 'Nuff said.

Kisses and licks, Cynthia

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This posting is from: kumiko yvonne watanabe
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> All I wanted to do was to have a good time, it was not my intention
> to make anyone feel out of place or be uncomfortable.

Thank you Jane, for correctly understanding the situation, and how
for a few it was uncomfortable. I am sorry that you were the focus
of this discussion too. It would not have happened, but someone
had to accuse the people making comments as being critical of
you, and I disagreed.

I felt this accusation about the comments from those few
attendees wasn't correct. Nor did I like any attendee attacking
another attendee or attendees based on something I didn't agree with
the reasoning behind it.

I read the comments over several times, and the few comments
were limited to just questioning if what you wore was appropriate
to their understanding of the attire for that event and feeling of
being uncomfortable at that event, and that was all.

Some parts of the comments dealt with the procedures behind
such an occurrence.

One or two of the comments even stated you looked quite
good in that gown. I agreed that you looked quite good too.

DLV has many attendees with different perceptions and attend
DLV for different reasons. This was one time when it clashed,
and the discussion that followed also brought up facts that weren't
known to everyone about what had happened.

You may have wanted to be the center of attraction at BB but
certainly not in how this discussion transpired. Again, I am sorry
that this discussion occurred over you.

I'm glad for a short time at DLV you enjoyed being your
true self.

Sorry to hear about your family situation too. Sounds
like you are very close to your mom. Watching one's
parents age wasn't easy for me either.

- Kumiko

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This posting is from: Rosada Delano
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Jane, I certainly do hope the issues you are dealing with settle down
for you to make it to DLV next year. I see the video I took at the BB
and hear the interview I had with you about your beautiful dress. Of
course, it was a dress I particularly couldn't wear but on you, dear, it
looked real good. You certainly were the Belle Du Jour! Isn't wonderful
that we can don our feminine attire and, like magic we are transported
to another place, and all those problems just vanish for awhile just
enough to make us feel good and not have a care in the world, even if
its for a short while. Hugs, Rosada.

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This posting is from: Jane
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Hello Everyone again

I am just blown away from all of the nice comments. I will be trying
like holy hell to make it next year. It just all depends on what happens
in my life.

I am not a super religious person, but any of your prayers would be most
welcome. If it looks like if I can make it, I will just have to wear
that dress again just for tradition if nothing else. Again It wasn't my
intention to make anyone feel out of place or uncomfortable, I just
wanted to relax and forget my cares for a while.

When I am in Jane mode I am somewhat flamboyant, but when in Will mode I
am a wallflower. Rather than beating this to death on this forum, if
anyone wants, they can contact me directly at, waswarts @ hughes.net
Take out the spaces in the email address when you reply.

Thank you all.

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